I think it should be decided in a bottom-up manner,<span></span><br><br>On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Avri Doria &lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Ok, so a top-down set of constraints the SOAC can live with and
    within in a bottom-up manner.  <br>
    I guess that really is the form of bottom-up model we already have.<br>
    <br>
    Who decides on this: the Members, or the Board&#39;s SIC (Structural
    Improvements Committee)?<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 29-Apr-15 23:18, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Avri:</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I expect there could be
          general standards and guidelines, with the SOACs given
          considerable leeway as long as they meet those benchmarks.  I
          believe this is currently the case with SG and C charters in
          the GNSO.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Avri
          Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;avri@acm.org&#39;);" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033"> Hi,<br>
              <br>
              How does the bottom-up imperative for SO/AC figure into
              the drive for standardization?  Each of the SOC/AC is
              diffeent according to its own bottom-up priorities, why
              wouldn&#39;t their legal persona also be self directed?<br>
              <br>
              And if the legal persona can be constrained, is this done
              as an ICANN Board issue or a Members issue.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                  avri</font></span>
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                  <div>On 29-Apr-15 21:06, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 April 2015 at
                          12:44, Chris Disspain <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;ceo@auda.org.au&#39;);" target="_blank">ceo@auda.org.au</a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                            <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="font-family:&#39;Verdana&#39;;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(102,102,102)">León,

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                                <div>Thanks! </div>
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                                <div>I appreciate that each SO/AC could
                                  set its own controls over its ‘alter
                                  ego’ and so the question would be more
                                  how will any control mechanisms be
                                  enforced.</div>
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                                <div>However, I imagine that it may also
                                  be important to each SO/AC to ensure
                                  that their fellow SOs and ACs have
                                  robust control mechanisms in place.</div>
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                          <div>I strongly agree with this. I think there
                            should be common requirements across the
                            SOs/ACs so we don&#39;t end up with a hodge
                            podge or low standards for exercising some
                            of these powers.</div>
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                          <div>What do others think?</div>
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                          <div>J </div>
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