Cheers,
Chris
On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:30 , Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:hi ChrisI don't understand how your comment relates to Malcolm's?cheersJordanOn 8 July 2015 at 00:21, Chris Disspain <ceo@auda.org.au> wrote:Hello Malcolm,I’m afraid I disagree with your interpretation. An intransigent position that does not countenance the possibility of movement away from or towards various solutions is a guarantee of failure when it comes to reaching consensus.
Cheers,
Chris
On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:16 , Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net> wrote:
On 07/07/2015 13:02, Kimberly Carlson wrote:Here are today’s slides in both PowerPoint and PDF formats.
On slide 2, "Overview", it says
"The two new models seek to address concerns expressed by members of the
multi-stakeholder community on the Community Empowerment Mechanism
described in Section 5 of CCWG’s Accountability Initial Draft Proposal
for Public Comment (4 May 2015) (“Initial Proposal”)"
I'm afraid that this suggests that once again the lawyers have been
asked to examine the wrong question.
The issue we must consider is not merely which of these two models will
best deliver on Section 5 of the CCWG's proposal, the community powers,
but which will best deliver *all* of it.
Section 3 ("Principles") and Section 4 ("Appeals Mechanisms") are
essential elements of the CCWG proposal. So the lawyer's ought to have
been asked to consider how the two models differ in their effects on
those two sections too.
As it happens, there is a passing mention of disparate effect: on slide
16 "Empowered SO/AC Designator Model" under "Problems/Complications" it
states "SOs and ACs would not have the reserved powers of members to
reverse board decisions like [...] implementing IRP recommendations."
However this crucial distinction has been given very little visibility
of emphasis, I think as a result of concentrating only on Section 5, to
the exclusion of Sections 3 & 4.
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