You are correct Avri. I was just looking at the Organizational members.

It is interesting, though, that the Board approved that charter after coming out so strongly for only allowing registrants.

I have always found it amusing that all of the documentation (not only for the NCSG) say "registrants" and not "gTLD registrants". A ccTLD registration counts just as well.

Alan

At 12/01/2015 01:59 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
Well Alan,
Not really on topic, however, just to correct the record.

On individual members I include the entire section, please note the first sentence.

https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter

2.2.5. New Individual Members ‑ Eligible Individuals.

Individual persons who agree to advocate for a noncommercial public‑interest position within the Stakeholder group and who fall within one of the following three categories are eligible to join as an “Individual Member”:

1. An Individual who has registered domain name(s) for personal, family or other noncommercial use; or

2. An Individual Internet user who is primarily concerned with the noncommercial public‑interest aspects of domain name policy, and is not represented in ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO Stakeholder Group; or

3. An Individual who is employed by or a member of a non-member noncommercial organization (universities, colleges, large NGOs) can join NCSG in his or her individual capacity if their organization has not already joined the NCSG. The Executive Committee shall, at its discretion, determine limits to the total number of Individual members who can join from any single organization (provided the limit shall apply to all Organizations, of the same size category, equally).

An individual who is a member of or employee of a noncommercial organization, which is itself a member of the NCSG, may apply for, or retain membership, in the NCSG only under the first criteria for individual membership, i.e. be an individual noncommercial registrant. Such membership is subject to Executive Committee review.

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For Organizational members, yes, they need to be registrants, for individual users they do not.  The NCSG SG  accepts individual non commercial users.  And except for NARALO, and perhaps soon EUROLO, is the only place for the civil society user.

avri


On 12-Jan-15 13:13, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I am afraid that is not quite the case.

Your reference to III(h)(11) is correct, but you missed III(a)(2) which says "Be the exclusive user of at least one domain name. This can be verified by its listing as the registrant and/or administrative contact in the WHOIS data of the domain name, by the name resolving to a website controlled by and representing the organization, or other indications that prove to Secretary-Treasurer and Chair that the prospective Member Organization is the primary user of a domain name."

Also, the NCUC is a subset of the NCSG, and the NCSG charter 2.2.1.2 includes those words as well.

The issue of whether GNSO participation was open to non-registrants was discussed during the last GNSO re-organization, and the Board made it clear that it was registrants. I believe that the ALAC was the only part of ICANN that objected to that.

Alan

At 12/01/2015 05:20 AM, Edward Morris wrote:


Actually, Evan, the
Noncommercial Users Constituency does represent ALL users within the
GNSO. Ownership of a domain name is NOT a prerequisite for NCUC
membership. Per the NCUC Bylaws, section 111(h)(11) NCUC membership is
open to:

ii) An Individual Internet user who is primarily concerned with the
public-interest aspects of domain name policy, and is not represented in
ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO
Stakeholder Group;

Domain name ownership, again, is not required, contrary to your
assertion. Hope this clarifies things a bit.

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