Even if I agreed on most of the definitions in the Google docs, I still think that the easiest is to call thinks by their simple names

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Le 4 mars 2017 à 10:00, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang <wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de> a écrit :

Make it as simple as possible so that ICANN outsiders will understand it.

Thanks to the 1000+ acronyms ICANN has created enough confusion not only among the "people in the street" who arer using domainnames but also among Internet policy makers who are not ICANN insiders but have to deal with implications conming fro domainnames.

wolfgang



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Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org im Auftrag von Nigel Roberts
Gesendet: Sa 04.03.2017 07:15
An: accountability-cross-community@icann.org
Betreff: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Terminology for the ICANN trinity

Whilst I agree that these distinctions are needed, I would suggest that
in British English the word 'organisation' would be more likely to be
interpreteted as "the whole".

It's a goto word for reporters when something is not entirely clear.

If we mean staff, let's say 'Staff'.



On 03/03/17 21:20, Greg Shatan wrote:
Agree with Malcolm's points.  I would suggest:

ICANN Inc. to refer to the corporation including both the staff and the
Board.
ICANN Organization to refer to the staff only (from the CEO down) but
NOT the Board

Also  agree that the Empowered Community is the entity.
EC SOAC Appointees (or Representatives) could be used for the
individuals serving as the "body" of the EC at any given time.

Also, it's possible that John Curran was asking where the IETF and its
participants would fit (i.e., are they within any "sphere" defined by a
particular term?).  In that sense, similar to  Avri, I would say that
the IETF and its participants are members of the ICANN Wider Community,
individually and as IETF.

I'm mulling over whether there is something in the relationship between
ICANN and IETF that makes that a less than perfect fit, but it's eluding
my grasp....

Greg

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:40 PM avri doria <avri@acm.org
<mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:

   Hi,

   The only goal is to find standard words for ICANN and its trinity of
   staff, board & community that can be used in the WS2 documents.  So I am
   not sure that the IETF, which has no role needing description in the WS2
   documents is relevant to the exercise.

   I suppose the IETF, in at least some sense, as individuals and possibly
   even in the aggregate,  would, if they were willing, be part of the
   ICANN wider community. Perhaps, though, the absence of a PSO is a flaw
   in the current implementation and a complicating factor in the answer.

   avri


   On 02-Mar-17 17:55, John Curran wrote:
On 2 Mar 2017, at 1:52 PM, avri doria <avri@acm.org
   <mailto:avri@acm.org>
<mailto:avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>>> wrote:
...
We are sending this for discussion by the full group

Avri -

  To aid in my understanding of the proposed terms, how would the
IETF and its
  participants be characterized per these definitions?

Thanks!
/John





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