On 8 July 2015 at 01:18, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

On 07-Jul-15 09:04, Jordan Carter wrote:
> Your analysis above, to be sustainable, would surely have to explain
> why all the other member or shareholder organisations in the world
> "breach a fundamental principle of governance" - I regard such
> proposals as fulfilling a basic principle, that being one of
> accountability in a true sense of the Board to its stakeholders.

I think one of the keys here is in those cases, most of those
organization are organization formed outside of the corporation. they
are not parts of that organization. I think the parallel to stockholder
corporations is problematic at best. For the most part, if a corpration
ceases to exist, its stockholders continue to exist. If ICANN were to
cease, I expect that the ACSO would also cease to exist. Also in a
stockholder corpration, and shareholder can just leave and buy stock in
another organization. I have trouble imagining how that works with a
multistakeholder organization that needs to have an internal set of
check and balances.

The stockholder analogy is poor if you are trying to read it in terms of the internal balance, but that isn't what I was using it for - it was to draw attention to the every day reality of Board members being accountable to external appointing entities. That's the way most of the world works.

As for organisations in ICANN, I don't quite get the point but - all the participants in ICANN are individuals or organisations. If through some lunatic move the corporation was disestablished, the various communities that do DNS would still come together, and there would need to be a new vehicle created to be the legal home of DNS policy as ICANN is today.

That's why I regard the dissolution idea as a total red herring...? You'd have to immediately re-create an organisation the same as the one you just dissolved...?

avri

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