Hello all,

 

The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2 Staff Accountability Subgroup Meeting #7 –  19 January 2017 will be available here:  https://community.icann.org/x/xJ3DAw

 

A copy of the action items and notes may be found below.

 

Thank you.

 

With kind regards,

Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant 

Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI)

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Action Items

·         Participants to read A and B document by EOB Monday and provide comments for drafting team- JC to send reminder to list.

·         Staff to provide answer to sub-group on access to documents by 27 January 2017.

·         Klaus Stoll to draft answers to Staff Questions for consideration by group by 27 Janaury 2017.

Notes

(11 participants at start of call)

1. Intro: agenda review, attendance, SOI check

Jordan Carter: Avri Doria will not be able to join the call today.

2. Detailed discussion-seeking feedback on working draft Document A v 1.3Document, open to comments and suggested edits, 

Jordan Carter: JC,AD and KS have cleaned up the document  from the 5th of January - still needs a lot of tidying up to get it to first reading. Asking participants to post comments on the clean version of the Google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGRrJZ-i7WA0uYBIHaB5Q3ssqfRmbAcgHJwlQ6scHZY/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs

Klaus Stoll: Would ask everyone to read the document and comment so we can go into a final editing.

Jordan Carter: (presentation of the structure document).

Klaus Stoll: The first three sections are a rehash of existing document - as such asking a reader to go through 6 pages of introduction - so maybe we could bring our recommendations more at the beginning could be better.

Jordan Carter: If a good idea we should be clear about what is standard and what is editorial from us. Anything on the Role Descriptions? (none). Anything on relationships?

Pam Little: 1.3.1 Root or just the DNS?

Jordan Carter: we should use standard language.

Jeff Neuman: Community does not implement policy - is this correct and we should note the gNSO work on this.

Jordan Carter: please share that link. So the language is not quite right yet. Back to Relationships section 2.

Jeff Neuman: I will try to find a good reference

Jordan Carter: Section 3 - any comments.

Pam Little: second para - ending - "some important differences" could be removed as we are talking about similarities here.

Jordan Carter: Section 4 - this needs quite a bit to tightening up. this gets close to the scope of this group and should be looked at in this light. Section 5 - Recommendations - I disagree with the financial indepence recommendation (registries and registrars should not fund ICANN).

Pam Little: @Jeff - ICANN provided a detailed response to our questions.

Jeff Neuman: I agree with removal of that bullet point

Alan Greenberg: how would this funding recommendation work?

Klaus Stoll: This financial relationship sometimes leads to conflicts and so we should look at better way to fund us to avoid this.

Jeff Neuman: @Klaus - But you are assuming there is a problem

Jeff Neuman: where is the evidence of that?

Alan Greenberg: Agree there is an issue but would not resolve it this way. This resolution makes no sense as is.

Klaus Stoll: If we do the second part we would be out of the scope of this sub-group.

Jordan Carter: There is something there that could put pressure on staff to dealing with those participants who fund the company.

Alan Greenberg: No problem with identifying the issue but the recommendation does not make sense.

Jeff Neuman: We need to identify sources of information for sections 1 and 2 - otherwise causes confusion for the reader.

Jordan Carter: the original longer version of this did have that and we have to bring some of that back.

Phil Corwin: Agree that the financial recommendation does not make sense. Second the funds to come from registrants up though registrars and registrants. The funds are used to get a variety of participants in ICANN. We need a document that will identify remedies for issues with staff.

Jordan Carter: That is for document A.

Klaus Stoll: It would be good to make these comments in the documents would be very helpful.

Jordan Carter: reminder to participants to please read and comment the document.

3. Initial discussion / seeking feedback on First Draft Document B - Avri is rapporteur on this

Jordan Carter: Waiting for access to documents.

Bernard Turcotte: Staff should have a response on thiss by the end of next week.

Jordan Carter: We will not go into detail on this document here while we wait for access to the ICANN documents which would inform our work in drafting this further.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UnkJuukv0px-CfIDgLrjdDZa2CpBvSahPvAXdYYTeHk/edit

4. Volunteers for response to Staff Questions Avri has prepared a document for answers to the questions that staff asked the group

Jordan Carter: Who would like to volunteer to draft some further answers?

Klaus Stoll: The answer to these questions are mostly in sections 4 and 5 of our document. I could spend some time to attempt a draft answer for us to consider.

Jordan Carter: Great thanks.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): we need to send / resend the links to docs again to our

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): list with reminder to contribute

5. Schedule check

Jordan Carter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ftd-Ps_qF46pf_iXf5foGjdUfCq64-St_43inFetDN0/edit  --- this is our Next Steps

Jordan Carter: We are running a  little late vs this schedule. We may not have docs A and B to the plenary prior to Copenhagen but should have one ready for  Copenhagen.

6. AOB

1.    Jordan Carter: AOB (none) – Adjourned

Action Items:

·         Participants to read A and B document by EOB Monday and provide comments for drafting team- JC to send reminder to list.

·         Staff to provide answer to sub-group on access to documents by 27 January 2017.

·         Klaus Stoll to draft answers to Staff Questions for consideration by group by 27 Janaury 2017.