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boundary="_000_8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E1DE78EA5Exchangesierrac_" --_000_8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E1DE78EA5Exchangesierrac_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On one hand I am relieved to see this as I was planning to post an email to= day urging the Co-Chairs to either postpone issuance of the Executive Summa= ry until there was actually a completed final Proposal to summarize, or to = relabel it so that it would be clear that it was not a document reflecting = final resolutions of key issues on which formal comments could be based. Yo= u have taken the second course and chosen to label it as "Formal Update on = our progress in and after the Dublin meeting". On the other hand, this decision now makes clear that the length of the pub= lic comment period is inadequate. In the CCWG's October 22nd Statement this appears: The current timeline proposes posting a high-level overview of recommendati= ons and a summary of changes from the 2nd Draft Proposal for a 35-day publi= c comment on 15 November 2015. Alongside the 35-day public comment, the CCW= G-Accountability will submit these resources to the Chartering Organization= s for initial feedback. The CCWG-Accountability plans to issue a full detai= led report, including annexes and in-depth documentation, mid-way into the = public comment period for roughly 20 days of consultation. A Formal Update cannot legitimately be the basis of either public comment o= r informed feedback from the Chartering organizations. Thus it is clear tha= t there is really only a 21-day public comment period under the current tim= etable, starting with the November 30 release of the 3rd draft Proposal, if= the current target of December 21 is adhered to. This is inadequate for a = matter of this importance and complexity, and considering the major differe= nces between the Member and Designator models.. Therefore I again urge the CCWG to extend the public comment period deadlin= e to at least December 30 to permit a 30-day comment period, which should b= e the minimum requirement in this case. Lastly, I do not think that the issuance of a Formal Update obviates the ne= ed for an Executive Summary to accompany the 3rd draft proposal. Such a Sum= mary could be extremely useful in assisting the community in understanding = the document, particularly by explaining how the key remaining issues were = resolved. Thank you for consideration of my views. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountabili= ty-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:22 AM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Status of summary document Dear Colleagues, The activity on the list has been very intense lately. As co-chairs we woul= d like to warmly thank all commenters on the recent documents. The feedback= s were extremely helpful, whether on substance or format, and our support t= eam is working hard to take your feedback in account for the updated versio= n. You will remember that a lot of concerns were raised that what the CCWG is = working on is difficult to understand for those who are not following the g= roups intense work. In response to that, we have discussed and agreed we wo= uld publish a document explaining in plain language what we are doing. We h= ave factored this into the agreed plan. At the time, we had expected to having reached consensus on all remaining q= uestions. As this is not the case today, we suggest flagging this according= ly and move forward with the publication of the document, which we would ca= ll a *Formal Update on our progress in and after the Dublin meeting*, rathe= r than an executive summary. Many of you have correctly stated that the document we shared with you is n= ot an executive summary due to its length. It is rather a short version of = our report without offering information on the rationale for decisions and = the genesis of our recommendation. This level of detail will be found in ou= r report. We have, however, added a 2 page abstract in addition to incorpor= ating a plethora of your suggestions to make this document accurate, more a= ccessible and shorter. To be clear: The document that we are planning to issue on Nov 15 is designed to update = the community on the progress we have made during and after ICANN 54. Its g= oal is to raise awareness of where we are, what our proposals are, so that = outreach can start and consideration of our final report (announced for Nov= 30th) can take place in a shorter time frame. While the content of the document would reflect the positions of our group,= closing outstanding issues is not a requirement before issuing this formal= update. Outstanding issues will be flagged as such. What is needed is a hi= gh level summary, as well as some level of detail regarding the topics we m= ade progress on in Dublin : decision making, sole designator model, budget,= individual director removal, and human rights. Our public comment period will then focus on soliciting feedback on these c= hanges in order to avoid the duplication of efforts for commenters on areas= of our report that already enjoyed broad support. With the full report, we will offer the opportunity to publish minority sta= tements. We do hope that you find these clarifications and suggestions helpful. We w= ill circulate the next version of the Update within the next 12 hours, and = the discussion of the document will be on the agenda of our call on Friday = 13 November, at 6.00 UTC. Many thanks again to all of you for your continued commitment. Thomas, Leon and Mathieu Co-chairs ________________________________ No virus found in this message. 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On one hand I am relie= ved to see this as I was planning to post an email today urging the Co-Chai= rs to either postpone issuance of the Executive Summary until there was act= ually a completed final Proposal to summarize, or to relabel it so that it would be clear that it was not a do= cument reflecting final resolutions of key issues on which formal comments = could be based. You have taken the second course and chosen to label it as = “Formal Update on our progress in and after the Dublin meeting”.

 

On the other hand, thi= s decision now makes clear that the length of the public comment period is = inadequate. In the CCWG’s October 22nd  Statement this appears:

The current timeline proposes posting a high-level overview of recomme= ndations and a summary of changes from the 2nd Draft Proposal for a 35-day = public comment on 15 November 2015. Alongside the 35-day public comment, the CCWG-Accountability will submit these resou= rces to the Chartering Organizations for initial feedback. The CCWG-Account= ability plans to issue a full detailed report, including annexes and in-dep= th documentation, mid-way into the public comment period for roughly 20 days of consultation.

 

A Formal Update cannot= legitimately be the basis of either public comment or informed feedback fr= om the Chartering organizations. Thus it is clear that there is really only= a 21-day public comment period under the current timetable, starting with the November 30 release of the 3= rd draft Proposal, if the current target of December 21 is adhered to= . This is inadequate for a matter of this importance and complexity, and co= nsidering the major differences between the Member and Designator models..

 

Therefore I again u= rge the CCWG to extend the public comment period deadline to at least Decem= ber 30 to permit a 30-day comment period, which should be the minimum requi= rement in this case.

 

Lastly, I do not think= that the issuance of a Formal Update obviates the need for an Executive Su= mmary to accompany the 3rd draft proposal. Such a Summary could = be extremely useful in assisting the community in understanding the document, particularly by explaining how th= e key remaining issues were resolved.

 

Thank you for consider= ation of my views.

 

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From: accounta= bility-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-commu= nity-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:22 AM
To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org
Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Status of summary document

 

Dear Colleagues,

 

The activity on the list has been very intense latel= y. As co-chairs we would like to warmly thank all commenters on the recent = documents. The feedbacks were extremely helpful, whether on substance or fo= rmat, and our support team is working hard to take your feedback in account for the updated version.<= /p>

 

You will remember that a lot of concerns were raised= that what the CCWG is working on is difficult to understand for those who = are not following the groups intense work. In response to that, we have dis= cussed and agreed we would publish a document explaining in plain language what we are doing. We have factore= d this into the agreed plan.

 

At the time, we had expected to having reached conse= nsus on all remaining questions. As this is not the case today, we suggest = flagging this accordingly and move forward with the publication of the docu= ment, which we would call a *Formal Update on our progress in and after the Dublin meeting*, rather than an ex= ecutive summary.

 

Many of you have correctly stated that the document = we shared with you is not an executive summary due to its length. It is rat= her a short version of our report without offering information on the ratio= nale for decisions and the genesis of our recommendation. This level of detail will be found in our report. W= e have, however, added a 2 page abstract in addition to incorporating a ple= thora of your suggestions to make this document accurate, more accessible a= nd shorter.

 

To be clear:

 

The document that we are planning to issue on Nov 15= is designed to update the community on the progress we have made during an= d after ICANN 54. Its goal is to raise awareness of where we are, what our = proposals are, so that outreach can start and consideration of our final report (announced for Nov 30th) can t= ake place in a shorter time frame.

 

While the content of the document would reflect the = positions of our group, closing outstanding issues is not a requirement bef= ore issuing this formal update. Outstanding issues will be flagged as such.= What is needed is a high level summary, as well as some level of detail regarding the topics we made progress on i= n Dublin : decision making, sole designator model, budget, individual direc= tor removal, and human rights.

 

Our public comment period will then focus on solicit= ing feedback on these changes in order to avoid the duplication of efforts = for commenters on areas of our report that already enjoyed broad support.

 

With the full report, we will offer the opportunity = to publish minority statements.

 

We do hope that you find these clarifications and su= ggestions helpful. We will circulate the next version of the Update within = the next 12 hours, and the discussion of the document will be on the agenda= of our call on Friday 13 November, at 6.00 UTC.

 

Many thanks again to all of you for your continued c= ommitment.

 

Thomas, Leon and Mathieu

Co-chairs

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