Avri,

you are right.

As a matter of fact, while thinking about this in the car this morning, I have decided to chang my mind:

1) It must go into WS1

2) I can live with Keith's language if 

a) we add the words "in particular", "such as for example" or my personal favourite "inter alia"; AND

b) add the words "due process" 

I only have the iPhone in my meeting but will propose a complete sentence later in the morning.

el

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On Jul 31, 2015, at 07:04, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

Hi,

Not only would we lose leverage, but until such time as WS2 completed
its work there would be no protection of human rights and especially no
protection for freedom of expression and the free flow of knowledge.

avri

On 31-Jul-15 07:31, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
No,

we don't.

In terms of the Charter need to determine whether we have Full
Consensus, Consensus or enough objections to constitut No Consensus of
the members appointed by the chartering AC/SOs.

The participants do not take part in this determination and/or any
related polls.

Qualifying language has the restrictive effect of excluding what is
not mentioned. Hence I will only accept an unqualified requirement.

This can go into WS2 but we then loose leverage.

el


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On Jul 30, 2015, at 23:59, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
<mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All
Grec ,s proposal got 11 in favour and 8 against( those voted for
Keith, s proposal)
Keith,s proposal got 8 in favour and 11 against( those voted for
Grec, s proposal)
My proposal got 8 in favour and 4 against
We thus need to identify the proposal that gained a more clear majority
Kavouss    


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On 31 Jul 2015, at 07:37, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@actonline.org
<mailto:JZuck@actonline.org>> wrote:

Good question! The waters got muddy at the end. I appears as though
there was a simple majority in favor of something being in there
and, given that, a simple majority in favor of Greg's language. I
don't know what that means for the draft that will go out to the
public. There was talk of another poll on the listserv to capture
more folks.

80% sure you don't need to draft anything and Greg will need to
draft an inline objection on behalf of part of the CSG....but who knows?

Jonathan Zuck

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