Agree with Roelof, including registrants as 3rd party beneficiaries to future Registrar agreements or RAAs would be problematic. Instead, we could consider a separate agreement between ICANN and the Registrant, similar to what some ccTLDs currently require. This would also create an opportunity to clean up & consolidate some of the existing "pass thru" obligations in the current RAA. Thanks- J. From: Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl<mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl>> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 3:54 To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Cc: "ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>" <ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>>, "accountability-staff@icann.org<mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>" <accountability-staff@icann.org<mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] CCWG-Accountability work team 2: draft 5.1

Work Stream 1, proposed a contract between ICANN and Registries & Registrars, with >Registrants as 3rd party beneficiaries. Contract lets ICANN impose rules on others only when >supported by consensus of affected parties.

That, of course, would never work. One of the reasons why not: those affected parties are quite often commercial enterprises that probably would not collectively by consensus agree to serve the public interest instead of their individual commercial interests Cheers, Roelof Meijer SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | P.O. Box 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM | THE NETHERLANDS T +31 (0)26 352 55 00 | M +31 (0)6 11 395 775 | F +31 (0)26 352 55 05 roelof.meijer@sidn.nl<mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl> | www.sidn.nl<http://www.sidn.nl/> From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> Date: maandag 29 december 2014 01:53 To: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Cc: "ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>" <ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>>, "accountability-staff@icann.org<mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>" <accountability-staff@icann.org<mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] CCWG-Accountability work team 2: draft 5.1 Work Stream 1, proposed a contract between ICANN and Registries & Registrars, with Registrants as 3rd party beneficiaries. Contract lets ICANN impose rules on others only when supported by consensus of affected parties.