Re: [CCWG-ACCT] about the CCWG 30-day comment period
Agree with Bruce. J. On 5/5/15, 18:03 , "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
I think it would be worth holding the public comment forum itself open up to and including Buenos Aires - but just note that the deadline applies with respect to responding to any of the comments in time for the Buenos Aires meeting.
I would expect for example that we are unlikely to get GAC feedback until after their meeting in Buenos Aires.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Adam Peake Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2015 6:41 AM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] about the CCWG 30-day comment period
Note on behalf of Thomas, Leon and Mathieu about the CCWG proposal 30-day public comment period.
Hi everyone,
We have seen comments about the 30-day public comment period. You will remember this has been our intention since we discussed planning in Istanbul, and we concluded this discussion on the CCWG call of 30 April. The outcome was to propose the first public comment should be for 30 days, which would allow time for us to prepare a response for the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. It is particularly important that we are able to respond to the dependencies identified by the CWG-Stewardship.
Recognizing that the shorter public comment is not ideal for a subject of such importance to the community, we also took into account the fact that we will to hold a second public comment period some weeks after ICANN53 when we will seek input on any outstanding issues and provide details and explanation prompted by discussions with the community from the first public comment and during ICANN53.
The public comment announcement includes the remark "Because this (first) Public Comment period is less than the required 40-day minimum, it has been approved by two ICANN Global Leaders." The term Global Leaders is a reference to senior members of the ICANN staff and the condition was created to ensure that a check existed so that a single ICANN department would not depart from the standard default time period without broader senior staff input. The public comment guidelines and procedures are available on the public wiki https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48344695
Warm regards,
Thomas, Leon and Mathieu CCWG co-chairs _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
No problem on Bruce's suggestion, but I think staff is getting a bad rap here. We spoke about the length of the comment period on several calls, and I think many of us saw value in analyzing comments prior to BA. This wasn't staff's call. Sent from my iPad
On May 6, 2015, at 9:50 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
Agree with Bruce.
J.
On 5/5/15, 18:03 , "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
I think it would be worth holding the public comment forum itself open up to and including Buenos Aires - but just note that the deadline applies with respect to responding to any of the comments in time for the Buenos Aires meeting.
I would expect for example that we are unlikely to get GAC feedback until after their meeting in Buenos Aires.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Adam Peake Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2015 6:41 AM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] about the CCWG 30-day comment period
Note on behalf of Thomas, Leon and Mathieu about the CCWG proposal 30-day public comment period.
Hi everyone,
We have seen comments about the 30-day public comment period. You will remember this has been our intention since we discussed planning in Istanbul, and we concluded this discussion on the CCWG call of 30 April. The outcome was to propose the first public comment should be for 30 days, which would allow time for us to prepare a response for the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. It is particularly important that we are able to respond to the dependencies identified by the CWG-Stewardship.
Recognizing that the shorter public comment is not ideal for a subject of such importance to the community, we also took into account the fact that we will to hold a second public comment period some weeks after ICANN53 when we will seek input on any outstanding issues and provide details and explanation prompted by discussions with the community from the first public comment and during ICANN53.
The public comment announcement includes the remark "Because this (first) Public Comment period is less than the required 40-day minimum, it has been approved by two ICANN Global Leaders." The term Global Leaders is a reference to senior members of the ICANN staff and the condition was created to ensure that a check existed so that a single ICANN department would not depart from the standard default time period without broader senior staff input. The public comment guidelines and procedures are available on the public wiki https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...
Warm regards,
Thomas, Leon and Mathieu CCWG co-chairs _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li...
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sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 7 May 2015 16:36, "Burr, Becky" <Becky.Burr@neustar.biz> wrote:
No problem on Bruce's suggestion, but I think staff is getting a bad rap
here. We spoke about the length of the comment period on several calls, and I think many of us saw value in analyzing comments prior to BA. This wasn't staff's call.
SO: Absolute +1. I think we throw so much of blame at staff, forgetting that some of issues were our call(re: accountability of the community itself). Unfortunately customer is always right would apply to staff. Cheers!
Sent from my iPad
On May 6, 2015, at 9:50 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
Agree with Bruce.
J.
On 5/5/15, 18:03 , "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
I think it would be worth holding the public comment forum itself open up to and including Buenos Aires - but just note that the deadline applies with respect to responding to any of the comments in time for the Buenos Aires meeting.
I would expect for example that we are unlikely to get GAC feedback until after their meeting in Buenos Aires.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Adam Peake Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2015 6:41 AM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] about the CCWG 30-day comment period
Note on behalf of Thomas, Leon and Mathieu about the CCWG proposal 30-day public comment period.
Hi everyone,
We have seen comments about the 30-day public comment period. You will remember this has been our intention since we discussed planning in Istanbul, and we concluded this discussion on the CCWG call of 30 April. The outcome was to propose the first public comment should be for 30 days, which would allow time for us to prepare a response for the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. It is particularly important that we are able to respond to the dependencies identified by the CWG-Stewardship.
Recognizing that the shorter public comment is not ideal for a subject of such importance to the community, we also took into account the fact that we will to hold a second public comment period some weeks after ICANN53 when we will seek input on any outstanding issues and provide details and explanation prompted by discussions with the community from the first public comment and during ICANN53.
The public comment announcement includes the remark "Because this (first) Public Comment period is less than the required 40-day minimum, it has been approved by two ICANN Global Leaders." The term Global Leaders is a reference to senior members of the ICANN staff and the condition was created to ensure that a check existed so that a single ICANN department would not depart from the standard default time period without broader senior staff input. The public comment guidelines and procedures are available on the public wiki
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...
Warm regards,
Thomas, Leon and Mathieu CCWG co-chairs _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li...
_______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li... _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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