Review of Articles 1-10 of the Draft Bylaws
Dear Lawyers, Dear Co-Chairs, I have studies the above and wish to raise following questions 1. In the redline texts I found many colours *Black* Blue Red Green *Black * I understand the Black colour is the initial texts of the current Bylaws Blue I understand the Blue colour IS USED FOR RENUMBERING OF aRTICLES Red I understand Red colour is used when new texts are added but where these texts Are they come from the Supplemental Proposal ? My verification reveals that not all texts coming from Supplemental Proposal as there are red texts which have been added by the team. My question is how one could distinguish those texts directly emanated from Supplemental Proposal from those added by the team Green from where the green texts come from I have also seen some new terms, words that were not discussed any where Who has added these terms ? I have not been able to highlight all these in a more distinctable way but I have highlighted then with bigger font 18-20 Please kindly review that and reply to my questions Regards Kavouss
Kavouss, Please allow me to provide some insight, since I'm familiar with comparison ("redlining") software from my day job. Generically, red text is "new text." In this case, it consists of the new Bylaws text drafted by the Bylaws drafting team, based on the Supplemental Proposal. The "draft bylaws" in the Supplemental Proposal were never intended to be definitive text to be "cut and pasted" into the Bylaws. Rather, any such "draft bylaws" text was intended to be used along with descriptive and conceptual discussions of potential Bylaws text, "notes to drafters," and elements of the Supplemental Proposal that required Bylaws revisions in order to implement them (whether or not accompanied by "draft bylaws" text, etc.). Green text is "moved text." Generically, this consists of existing text that was moved by the drafters from a different place in the document. This can be useful when sections of a document are re-ordered. Unfortunately, in my experience, these programs do a fairly poor job of picking up moved text. The redlining programs often pick up some new text that is the same as deleted text and deem that to be "moved text," which is of no use to the reader. Conversely, the program will often fail to pick up moved text if it has been moved too far within a large document, and will show re-ordered sections as new text when they are not new. In my personal preferences for comparison software, I "uncheck the box" for "show moved text," for the reasons set forth above. Greg [image: http://hilweb1/images/signature.jpg] *Gregory S. Shatan | Partner*McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP 245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167 T: 212-609-6873 F: 212-416-7613 gshatan @mccarter.com | www.mccarter.com BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Lawyers, Dear Co-Chairs, I have studies the above and wish to raise following questions 1. In the redline texts I found many colours *Black* Blue Red Green *Black * I understand the Black colour is the initial texts of the current Bylaws Blue I understand the Blue colour IS USED FOR RENUMBERING OF aRTICLES Red I understand Red colour is used when new texts are added but where these texts Are they come from the Supplemental Proposal ? My verification reveals that not all texts coming from Supplemental Proposal as there are red texts which have been added by the team. My question is how one could distinguish those texts directly emanated from Supplemental Proposal from those added by the team Green from where the green texts come from I have also seen some new terms, words that were not discussed any where Who has added these terms ? I have not been able to highlight all these in a more distinctable way but I have highlighted then with bigger font 18-20 Please kindly review that and reply to my questions Regards Kavouss
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Dear Greg Thank you very much for your kind Reply and for the clarifications /explanations provided. My request was to have clear Description of these colour references. If legal team drafter confirm you you described then it would be difficult to identify the source / origin of the text and its compliance With the supplemental proposal ,s text or its concept. In other words we have no means to verify the accuracy of the text with concept or the text in the CCWG PROPOSAL Regards Kavousd Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Apr 2016, at 00:49, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Kavouss,
Please allow me to provide some insight, since I'm familiar with comparison ("redlining") software from my day job.
Generically, red text is "new text." In this case, it consists of the new Bylaws text drafted by the Bylaws drafting team, based on the Supplemental Proposal. The "draft bylaws" in the Supplemental Proposal were never intended to be definitive text to be "cut and pasted" into the Bylaws. Rather, any such "draft bylaws" text was intended to be used along with descriptive and conceptual discussions of potential Bylaws text, "notes to drafters," and elements of the Supplemental Proposal that required Bylaws revisions in order to implement them (whether or not accompanied by "draft bylaws" text, etc.).
Green text is "moved text." Generically, this consists of existing text that was moved by the drafters from a different place in the document. This can be useful when sections of a document are re-ordered. Unfortunately, in my experience, these programs do a fairly poor job of picking up moved text. The redlining programs often pick up some new text that is the same as deleted text and deem that to be "moved text," which is of no use to the reader. Conversely, the program will often fail to pick up moved text if it has been moved too far within a large document, and will show re-ordered sections as new text when they are not new. In my personal preferences for comparison software, I "uncheck the box" for "show moved text," for the reasons set forth above.
Greg
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Gregory S. Shatan | Partner McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP
245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167 T: 212-609-6873 F: 212-416-7613 gshatan @mccarter.com | www.mccarter.com
BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Lawyers, Dear Co-Chairs, I have studies the above and wish to raise following questions 1. In the redline texts I found many colours Black Blue Red Green Black I understand the Black colour is the initial texts of the current Bylaws Blue I understand the Blue colour IS USED FOR RENUMBERING OF aRTICLES Red I understand Red colour is used when new texts are added but where these texts Are they come from the Supplemental Proposal ? My verification reveals that not all texts coming from Supplemental Proposal as there are red texts which have been added by the team. My question is how one could distinguish those texts directly emanated from Supplemental Proposal from those added by the team Green from where the green texts come from I have also seen some new terms, words that were not discussed any where Who has added these terms ? I have not been able to highlight all these in a more distinctable way but I have highlighted then with bigger font 18-20 Please kindly review that and reply to my questions Regards Kavouss
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Kavouss, If you are looking for a way to tie the changes in the Bylaws to the sections of the draft proposal, an extensive document was circulated by Holly several days ago which provides just such a concordance. Read together with the draft Bylaws, one can examine the Bylaws text in context and verify the accuracy of the bylaws text compared with the proposal. Greg [image: http://hilweb1/images/signature.jpg] *Gregory S. Shatan | Partner*McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP 245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167 T: 212-609-6873 F: 212-416-7613 gshatan @mccarter.com | www.mccarter.com BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Greg Thank you very much for your kind Reply and for the clarifications /explanations provided. My request was to have clear Description of these colour references. If legal team drafter confirm you you described then it would be difficult to identify the source / origin of the text and its compliance With the supplemental proposal ,s text or its concept. In other words we have no means to verify the accuracy of the text with concept or the text in the CCWG PROPOSAL Regards Kavousd
Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Apr 2016, at 00:49, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Kavouss,
Please allow me to provide some insight, since I'm familiar with comparison ("redlining") software from my day job.
Generically, red text is "new text." In this case, it consists of the new Bylaws text drafted by the Bylaws drafting team, based on the Supplemental Proposal. The "draft bylaws" in the Supplemental Proposal were never intended to be definitive text to be "cut and pasted" into the Bylaws. Rather, any such "draft bylaws" text was intended to be used along with descriptive and conceptual discussions of potential Bylaws text, "notes to drafters," and elements of the Supplemental Proposal that required Bylaws revisions in order to implement them (whether or not accompanied by "draft bylaws" text, etc.).
Green text is "moved text." Generically, this consists of existing text that was moved by the drafters from a different place in the document. This can be useful when sections of a document are re-ordered. Unfortunately, in my experience, these programs do a fairly poor job of picking up moved text. The redlining programs often pick up some new text that is the same as deleted text and deem that to be "moved text," which is of no use to the reader. Conversely, the program will often fail to pick up moved text if it has been moved too far within a large document, and will show re-ordered sections as new text when they are not new. In my personal preferences for comparison software, I "uncheck the box" for "show moved text," for the reasons set forth above.
Greg
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*Gregory S. Shatan | Partner*McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP
245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167 T: 212-609-6873 F: 212-416-7613 gshatan @mccarter.com | www.mccarter.com
BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Kavouss Arasteh < kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Lawyers, Dear Co-Chairs, I have studies the above and wish to raise following questions 1. In the redline texts I found many colours *Black* Blue Red Green *Black * I understand the Black colour is the initial texts of the current Bylaws Blue I understand the Blue colour IS USED FOR RENUMBERING OF aRTICLES Red I understand Red colour is used when new texts are added but where these texts Are they come from the Supplemental Proposal ? My verification reveals that not all texts coming from Supplemental Proposal as there are red texts which have been added by the team. My question is how one could distinguish those texts directly emanated from Supplemental Proposal from those added by the team Green from where the green texts come from I have also seen some new terms, words that were not discussed any where Who has added these terms ? I have not been able to highlight all these in a more distinctable way but I have highlighted then with bigger font 18-20 Please kindly review that and reply to my questions Regards Kavouss
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