Measure of Community Consensus on the final recommendations from the CCWG
Hello Anne,
I would have to disagree with the notion that “Community Consensus” requires consensus with the ICANN Board. It is CCWG consensus that is required.
Just to clarify my understanding here of the process steps from the CCWG charter. - The CCWG produces a Draft Proposal - Each of the chartering organizations then decide whether to adopt the recommendations - the CCWG will then submit a CCWG-Accountability Board Report which will contain: - the proposal as adopted by the CCWG-Accountability - the notifications of the decisions from the chartering organizations - documentation of the process that was followed The level of "Community Consensus" on the final proposal will be judged based on whether all or most of the chartering organizations adopt the recommendations. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
Hi, There is a "modified" saying in my locale that says "... Strength does not open a door as fast as the one who has key to the door" The CCWG outcome will go through the board and the board will actually play a key role in its implementation. Would it not then be wise and strategic enough to get consensus of the board even if it's "rough" on the CCWG proposal?; both sides IMO are required prerequisite to succeed in the transition process. So I think this WG should apply strength in explaining its view to the board while also patiently listening to board's opinion as well. Does that sound like bargaining between community and board? Well I call it dialogue and I think it's required. Cheers! Sent from my Asus Zenfone2 Kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 17 Sep 2015 10:53, "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
Hello Anne,
I would have to disagree with the notion that “Community Consensus”
requires consensus with the ICANN Board. It is CCWG consensus that is required.
Just to clarify my understanding here of the process steps from the CCWG charter.
- The CCWG produces a Draft Proposal
- Each of the chartering organizations then decide whether to adopt the recommendations
- the CCWG will then submit a CCWG-Accountability Board Report which will contain:
- the proposal as adopted by the CCWG-Accountability
- the notifications of the decisions from the chartering organizations
- documentation of the process that was followed
The level of "Community Consensus" on the final proposal will be judged based on whether all or most of the chartering organizations adopt the recommendations.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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I wholeheartedly agree that we need to engage in continued dialogue with the Board. Indeed, I think most if not all of us hope that a dialogue with the Board will be a key feature of the F2F next week, since we are purposefully "collocating" with the Board in Los Angeles. Greg On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
There is a "modified" saying in my locale that says "... Strength does not open a door as fast as the one who has key to the door"
The CCWG outcome will go through the board and the board will actually play a key role in its implementation. Would it not then be wise and strategic enough to get consensus of the board even if it's "rough" on the CCWG proposal?; both sides IMO are required prerequisite to succeed in the transition process.
So I think this WG should apply strength in explaining its view to the board while also patiently listening to board's opinion as well. Does that sound like bargaining between community and board? Well I call it dialogue and I think it's required.
Cheers!
Sent from my Asus Zenfone2 Kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 17 Sep 2015 10:53, "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
Hello Anne,
I would have to disagree with the notion that “Community
Consensus” requires consensus with the ICANN Board. It is CCWG consensus that is required.
Just to clarify my understanding here of the process steps from the CCWG charter.
- The CCWG produces a Draft Proposal
- Each of the chartering organizations then decide whether to adopt the recommendations
- the CCWG will then submit a CCWG-Accountability Board Report which will contain:
- the proposal as adopted by the CCWG-Accountability
- the notifications of the decisions from the chartering organizations
- documentation of the process that was followed
The level of "Community Consensus" on the final proposal will be judged based on whether all or most of the chartering organizations adopt the recommendations.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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Thanks Bruce - I appreciate your addressing the various questions. Unfortunately I have been out ill but am back in today and look forward to further discussion in LA later this week. Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@lrrlaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:53 AM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Measure of Community Consensus on the final recommendations from the CCWG Hello Anne,
I would have to disagree with the notion that “Community Consensus” requires consensus with the ICANN Board. It is CCWG consensus that is required.
Just to clarify my understanding here of the process steps from the CCWG charter. - The CCWG produces a Draft Proposal - Each of the chartering organizations then decide whether to adopt the recommendations - the CCWG will then submit a CCWG-Accountability Board Report which will contain: - the proposal as adopted by the CCWG-Accountability - the notifications of the decisions from the chartering organizations - documentation of the process that was followed The level of "Community Consensus" on the final proposal will be judged based on whether all or most of the chartering organizations adopt the recommendations. Regards, Bruce Tonkin _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community ________________________________ This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If the reader of this message or an attachment is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message or attachment to the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender. The information transmitted in this message and any attachments may be privileged, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the intended recipients, and is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §2510-2521.
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