Hello all, The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2_ CCWG Diversity Subgroup, Meeting #5 - 06 December 2016 will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/YBu4Aw. A copy of the notes may be found below. Kind Regards, Yvette Guigneaux Multi-Stakeholder & Strategic Initiative Asst. ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Playa Vista, CA 90094 yvette.guigneaux@icann.org<mailto:yvette.guigneaux@icann.org> | www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> ________________________________ WS2 Diversity Subgroup Mtg #5 | 06 December 2016 @ 13:00 UTC Notes: (including relevant portions of the chat): 0. Call Admin and Roll Call Audio Only: Cheryl Langdon-Orr 1. Welcome - Opening Remarks Version 2 of the straw man document is available on Google Docs. What do we need to improve on? What key questions do we need to prepare, to share with the ICANN community? 2. Discussion Topics - review second version of strawman: 2nd version of strawman is available for review here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpXaGckf9IIYGgPKdMhBgKe8gzwruuCHgvXiz-Dw... Main topics discussed: - Diversity vs skills - Special needs / how to accommodate them during ICANN meetings - Linguistic diversity - Gender diversity, and the need to distinguish between gender identity and sexual orientation - Age diversity - Suggestion to seek feedback from SO/ACs to understand how they have implemented diversity - Suggestion to address the various groups of ICANN separately Detailed discussions: Sebastien would like to raise 2 points: - Diversity vs skills - Ask feedback from the SO/ACs to understand how they have implemented diversity, Fiona: we thought we had captured that point (div vs skill) in section 3.6. Fiona: the way ICANN meetings are organized is not appropriate for those who are challenged. Sebastien: we could ask staff what is done on the registration form (is question asked at registration re: special needs) & how they respond to that Javier Rua-Jovet: I think we should recommend Staff to look into acquiring Braille finger monitors. Sebastien: the language used is always English. It could be encouraged to use different languages, for example by having rooms with different languages in each. Javier Rua-Jovet: I supprt Sebastien's views on linguistic diversity. ICANN has accommodated IDNs, but in meetings, the languages of the IDNs are not spoken. What effort is being made to translate documents? Fiona raised a point about gender, and if it should be part of the discussion. Lousewies: gender should not be binary, we need to include the LGBT community. everyone should feel welcome, and the leadership should reflect that diversity. Javier: our position should be the most progressive, the most open as possible on the topic of gender. Lousewies van Der Laan 2: in the notes, I would be grateful if a clear distinction could be made between gender identity on the one hand and sexual orientation on the other period they are two distinct matters period someone can identify as a woman and be in a relationship with a man and would therefore not to self identify as gay. Javier Rua-Jovet: Agree completely with Lousewies on gender vs sexual orientation. Fiona: we need to identify which components of diversity are the most important, which ones are measurable, and which aren't. Javier would also like to speak on the issue of age (section 2.4). 2.4 seems to talk only about young people ("from Millenial through to the next generation"), we should also include old people. Sebastien: there is no public data on age of community members. When I was on the board, there was reluctance from the board to include younger people. Inexperienced people can be trained, but we can't change who we are, so skill is not as important as diversity. Julie: different aspects of diversity are different in each context. Each group within ICANN should define which aspects of diversity are of importance to them. Fiona: we need to think of ways to engage with the various groups of the community on this. Lousewies van Der Laan 2: I also think it is helpful to make a distinction between areas where we would like I see a NN to be inclusive, areas where we would like to encourage more people to be active and areas where we expect a certain kind of balance in the leadership for example 3. AOB * Fiona will regroup with Rafik and Leon after this call to take in consideration all the comments received. * 2 more calls before the end of this year. * Attendance was low today, hopefully it will catch up again.