advice/recommendation vs. decision making
Hi, Neither advice nor a recommendation is a decision. Both can be rejected by some margin in the Board's decision making. The two words indicate the same level of decision making. While nuance may be found in the definitions of advise and recommend, their relation to another being the decision maker is identical. Currently neither AC nor SOs have decision making capability. In so far as community powers are decision making capabilities, both SO and AC are being offered change from the advice/recommendation role to a decision making role on key ICANN issues. SO are also being given an extension in scope as they are being given a decision making role outside their areas of direct responsibility. I think that cutting this knot, may be easier done if we avoid self-aggrandizing the roles of our SO/AC while denigrating the role of other AC/SO. The attempt we are involved in, is gaining a decision making role for the community which non of us individually as SO/AC currently has. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Well said Avri On 25 Nov 2015 2:27 am, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Neither advice nor a recommendation is a decision. Both can be rejected by some margin in the Board's decision making. The two words indicate the same level of decision making. While nuance may be found in the definitions of advise and recommend, their relation to another being the decision maker is identical.
Currently neither AC nor SOs have decision making capability.
In so far as community powers are decision making capabilities, both SO and AC are being offered change from the advice/recommendation role to a decision making role on key ICANN issues. SO are also being given an extension in scope as they are being given a decision making role outside their areas of direct responsibility.
I think that cutting this knot, may be easier done if we avoid self-aggrandizing the roles of our SO/AC while denigrating the role of other AC/SO. The attempt we are involved in, is gaining a decision making role for the community which non of us individually as SO/AC currently has.
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Indeed Thanks, Avri! Jorge Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Cheryl Langdon-Orr Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. November 2015 17:18 An: Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> Cc: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] advice/recommendation vs. decision making Well said Avri On 25 Nov 2015 2:27 am, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote: Hi, Neither advice nor a recommendation is a decision. Both can be rejected by some margin in the Board's decision making. The two words indicate the same level of decision making. While nuance may be found in the definitions of advise and recommend, their relation to another being the decision maker is identical. Currently neither AC nor SOs have decision making capability. In so far as community powers are decision making capabilities, both SO and AC are being offered change from the advice/recommendation role to a decision making role on key ICANN issues. SO are also being given an extension in scope as they are being given a decision making role outside their areas of direct responsibility. I think that cutting this knot, may be easier done if we avoid self-aggrandizing the roles of our SO/AC while denigrating the role of other AC/SO. The attempt we are involved in, is gaining a decision making role for the community which non of us individually as SO/AC currently has. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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