Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability
Dear all, Further to conversation on list this week including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community. Grace ICANN Colleagues: It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship. As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize! For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin. I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition. Fadi Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
Dear Grace, as apparently individuals can make requests, please allow me to request to be spared from that Chehadé-Waffler's logorrhea. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 15 Oct 2015, at 10:22, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community. —Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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To say that this is an "objective" assessment is to wildly overstate the case .. Sadly . Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com <mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com> O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066 Link to my PGP Key <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=articl e&id=19&Itemid=9> From: Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:22 AM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability Dear all, Further to conversation on list this week - including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list- here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community. -Grace ICANN Colleagues: It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship. As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize! For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin. I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition. Fadi Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
Paul, It depends what the objective is.... Greg On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Paul Rosenzweig < paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
To say that this is an “objective” assessment is to wildly overstate the case …. Sadly …
Paul
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*From:* Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:22 AM *To:* Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability
Dear all,
Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community.
—Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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I have a piece of advice for colleagues, particular the Members of the WG, that I received today. It is this "Make sure you know when you get in what are the principles you will not ever give up on, and hold them dearly, and never let them go." Previously I'd see the same principle stated as :- "Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." Now, can you tell me who said either? On 15/10/15 15:52, Greg Shatan wrote:
Paul,
It depends what the objective is....
Greg
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Paul Rosenzweig < paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
To say that this is an “objective” assessment is to wildly overstate the case …. Sadly …
Paul
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*From:* Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:22 AM *To:* Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability
Dear all,
Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community.
—Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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Fadi was quoted in the Irish Times as saying the first. Cheers from Dublin, Ken
On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net> wrote:
I have a piece of advice for colleagues, particular the Members of the WG, that I received today.
It is this
"Make sure you know when you get in what are the principles you will not ever give up on, and hold them dearly, and never let them go."
Previously I'd see the same principle stated as :-
"Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
Now, can you tell me who said either?
On 15/10/15 15:52, Greg Shatan wrote: Paul,
It depends what the objective is....
Greg
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Paul Rosenzweig < paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
To say that this is an “objective” assessment is to wildly overstate the case …. Sadly …
Paul
Paul Rosenzweig
paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com <paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com>
O: +1 (202) 547-0660
M: +1 (202) 329-9650
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Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066
Link to my PGP Key <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article...>
*From:* Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:22 AM *To:* Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability
Dear all,
Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community.
—Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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Tada!! Nicely done. On 15/10/15 20:24, Salaets, Ken wrote:
Fadi was quoted in the Irish Times as saying the first.
Cheers from Dublin,
Ken
On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net> wrote:
I have a piece of advice for colleagues, particular the Members of the WG, that I received today.
It is this
"Make sure you know when you get in what are the principles you will not ever give up on, and hold them dearly, and never let them go."
Previously I'd see the same principle stated as :-
"Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
Now, can you tell me who said either?
On 15/10/15 15:52, Greg Shatan wrote: Paul,
It depends what the objective is....
Greg
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Paul Rosenzweig < paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
To say that this is an “objective” assessment is to wildly overstate the case …. Sadly …
Paul
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O: +1 (202) 547-0660
M: +1 (202) 329-9650
VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739
Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066
Link to my PGP Key <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article...>
*From:* Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org] *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:22 AM *To:* Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi's Contribution to ICANN Accountability
Dear all,
Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community.
—Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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Greatly appreciated!!!!!!! "Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers." Carlos Raúl!!! On Oct 15, 2015 4:24 AM, "Grace Abuhamad" <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all, Further to conversation on list this week — including requests from Thomas, James, and Anne (apologies if I missed others) to have information shared and distributed to this list— here below are a message and an attachment from Fadi Chehade that are being shared with the community. —Grace
ICANN Colleagues:
It's wall-to-wall Accountability in Dublin! Together, we shall coalesce around the tremendous work that has been done by the CCWG to enhance ICANN accountability ahead of our historic transition from U.S. Stewardship.
As I was preparing for Dublin, I became aware that I needed to understand better where we stood and that I, and many in our community, have not been able to keep up with the extensive documentation emanating from the CCWG's work. Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers. I sympathize!
For this, I built the attached presentation. It is my personal, objective, and considered contribution into the process. A summary of where we stand on Accountability and what I believe we still need to sort in Dublin.
I share it with you as a personal contribution and hope it will help you get ready for Dublin -- a historic meeting to strengthen ICANN accountability and pave the way for a safe transition.
Fadi
Note: I built it as an interactive PDF file. So, when you click on any of the main chart's rows, it will link you directly to the slide that describes the element of accountability in that row. To go back to the main chart, I put a link at the bottom that gets you back to the top (main chart). On each slide describing a row, I tried to capture in plain English where I believe we have broad agreement and what open questions remain (with blanks to be filled by the community). On most rows, I showed one implementation approach. On the two rows where we have alternative implementation approaches, I put both approaches (you can toggle between them by clicking on the approach tab).
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On 15/10/15 15:55, Carlos Raul wrote:
"Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers."
Furthermore, there are many legal memos, which are hard to digest for those of us who ARE versed in legal matters (though not of the American variety) and ARE native English speakers (though not of the American variety.
Winston Churchill On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net> wrote:
On 15/10/15 15:55, Carlos Raul wrote:
"Furthermore, there are many legal memos that are dense with content and
hard to digest for those who are not versed in legal matters as well as non-native English speakers."
Furthermore, there are many legal memos, which are hard to digest for those of us who ARE versed in legal matters (though not of the American variety) and ARE native English speakers (though not of the American variety.
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Nigel, What is the best way to initiate trivia time? Also, is there a specific method or time allocated for initiating trivia time without garnering insults, insinuations and criticism of a trivia time?. I too would like to initiate trivia time. Please advise. Best, Ron
I didn't know, but I did suspect it. It has his timbre. You can just picture the old bulldog barking out those "Never"s. I didn't have the courage to guess though, and what's the point in cheating?
On 15 Oct 2015, at 19:45, william currie <willie.currie@gmail.com> wrote:
Winston Churchill
Sounds like Churchill, looks like Putin. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s On 15 Oct 2015, 21:27 +0100, Malcolm Hutty<malcolm@linx.net>, wrote:
I didn't know, but I did suspect it. It has his timbre. You can just picture the old bulldog barking out those "Never"s. I didn't have the courage to guess though, and what's the point in cheating?
On 15 Oct 2015, at 19:45, william currie<willie.currie@gmail.com>wrote:
Winston Churchill
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Just want to relay Keith's most recent request to the group of people on ccwg-accountabilty who were engaging in some fun Winston Churchhill trivia, as it appears as if both Keith and Greg somehow missed pointing out those real contributions to the important work aplenty. Best, Ron
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