Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2
Dear Colleagues, As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul. With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative. the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call). Thanks for your consideration, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Dear Co-Chairs, prior to considering this I need to understand what “freeze period” means. el On 2015-04-16 14:58, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Dear Co-Chairs, Sending this 25 hours before deadline leaves an effective 2 hours to consider and prepare amendments, if any, so I object to the short notice already now, to put it in the record. Never mind that I don't know what a "freeze period" is. el On 2015-04-16 15:06, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
prior to considering this I need to understand what “freeze period” means.
el
On 2015-04-16 14:58, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse 4-5, St Annes Walk <Directors@omadhina.net> Alderney, Guernsey, GY9 3JZ Omadhina Internet Services Ltd British Channel Islands -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Dear Eberhard, CoChairs use the term "freeze" to refer to the period of time during which no revised or new versions of documents will be circulated. The "freeze" period will allow for everyone to go through the status quo. I hope this helps. Best regards Alice On 4/16/15 5:57 PM, "Dr Eberhard Lisse" <el@lisse.NA> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
Sending this 25 hours before deadline leaves an effective 2 hours to consider and prepare amendments, if any, so I object to the short notice already now, to put it in the record.
Never mind that I don't know what a "freeze period" is.
el
On 2015-04-16 15:06, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
prior to considering this I need to understand what ³freeze period² means.
el
On 2015-04-16 14:58, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the ³freeze period² document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse 4-5, St Annes Walk <Directors@omadhina.net> Alderney, Guernsey, GY9 3JZ Omadhina Internet Services Ltd British Channel Islands
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Alice, thanks, this is helpful. But it makes it even more worrisome. el On 2015-04-16 17:15, Alice Jansen wrote:
Dear Eberhard, CoChairs use the term "freeze" to refer to the period of time during which no revised or new versions of documents will be circulated. The "freeze" period will allow for everyone to go through the status quo.
I hope this helps. Best regards Alice
On 4/16/15 5:57 PM, "Dr Eberhard Lisse" <el@lisse.NA> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
Sending this 25 hours before deadline leaves an effective 2 hours to consider and prepare amendments, if any, so I object to the short notice already now, to put it in the record.
Never mind that I don't know what a "freeze period" is.
el [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Dear CCWG-Colleagues, I suggest the following point be included: - Alternative options for ICANN's jurisdiction (understood as 'place of legal establishment') based on possible accountability limitations related to the current jurisdiction of the Corporation (identified during WS1); I assume the first item ("enhancements to ICANN's accountability based on the law(s) applicable to its actions") of the proposed WS2 list may also refer to jurisdiction, but I believe a clear reference to the term and to what we discussed in Istanbul is more adequate. Note: I take the opportunity to thank Greg Shatan for his useful distinction of the various meanings associated with the term 'jurisdiction'. Kind regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 10:58 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Dear Colleagues, As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul. With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative. the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call). Thanks for your consideration, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Pedro, First, your thanks are very much appreciated, and I thank you for them in return. Second, would you be so kind as to provide some of the possible accountability limitations you refer to, or direct me to where they have been identified? I would like to make sure that I understand the concern. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Greg Shatan On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva < pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br> wrote:
Dear CCWG-Colleagues,
I suggest the following point be included:
- Alternative options for ICANN's jurisdiction (understood as 'place of legal establishment') based on possible accountability limitations related to the current jurisdiction of the Corporation (identified during WS1);
I assume the first item ("enhancements to ICANN's accountability based on the law(s) applicable to its actions") of the proposed WS2 list may also refer to jurisdiction, but I believe a clear reference to the term and to what we discussed in Istanbul is more adequate.
Note: I take the opportunity to thank Greg Shatan for his useful distinction of the various meanings associated with the term 'jurisdiction'.
Kind regards,
Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609
Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609
-----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 10:58 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
-- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
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Dear Greg, Thank you for the email. We have just started to interact with the legal firms and are slowly being acquainted with their advice. In the course of the next weeks/months I believe we will be able to better identify whether there are limitations or not regarding ICANN's current jurisdiction. This is why I wrote "possible accountability limitations". Maybe the text at the end of the sentence is a bit misleading, but I didn't mean they have been already identified. This is still work in progress. Regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 18:02 Para: Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Cc: Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Pedro, First, your thanks are very much appreciated, and I thank you for them in return. Second, would you be so kind as to provide some of the possible accountability limitations you refer to, or direct me to where they have been identified? I would like to make sure that I understand the concern. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Greg Shatan On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva <pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br<mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br>> wrote: Dear CCWG-Colleagues, I suggest the following point be included: - Alternative options for ICANN's jurisdiction (understood as 'place of legal establishment') based on possible accountability limitations related to the current jurisdiction of the Corporation (identified during WS1); I assume the first item ("enhancements to ICANN's accountability based on the law(s) applicable to its actions") of the proposed WS2 list may also refer to jurisdiction, but I believe a clear reference to the term and to what we discussed in Istanbul is more adequate. Note: I take the opportunity to thank Greg Shatan for his useful distinction of the various meanings associated with the term 'jurisdiction'. Kind regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> -----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 10:58 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Dear Colleagues, As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul. With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative. the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call). Thanks for your consideration, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 <tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006> mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill ***************************** _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Why would we list in WS2 an inquiry into possible problems we have not yet identified and of which we are not yet aware? We might as well list “possible adverse action by the GAC” or “possible default by ICANN on its debt” or thousands of other possibilities that are evanescent and indeterminate. I agree, of course, that IF our inquiry suggests a real problem it would be appropriate to place it on the WS2 agenda. But identifying as agenda item a contingent possibility of indeterminate provenance simply because of its political salience is, I respectfully submit, inadmissible. WS2 is filled enough with problems and issues we actually know exist … we shouldn’t put down placeholders for every issue that some consider of possible merit. Paul Paul Rosenzweig <mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com> paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066 <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article...> Link to my PGP Key <http://www.rsaconference.com/events/us15/register?utm_source=inhouse&utm_med...> From: Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva [mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:12 PM To: 'Greg Shatan' Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: RES: Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Dear Greg, Thank you for the email. We have just started to interact with the legal firms and are slowly being acquainted with their advice. In the course of the next weeks/months I believe we will be able to better identify whether there are limitations or not regarding ICANN's current jurisdiction. This is why I wrote "possible accountability limitations". Maybe the text at the end of the sentence is a bit misleading, but I didn't mean they have been already identified. This is still work in progress. Regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 18:02 Para: Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Cc: Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr <mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr> ; accountability-cross-community@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Assunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Pedro, First, your thanks are very much appreciated, and I thank you for them in return. Second, would you be so kind as to provide some of the possible accountability limitations you refer to, or direct me to where they have been identified? I would like to make sure that I understand the concern. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Greg Shatan On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva < <mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br> pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br> wrote: Dear CCWG-Colleagues, I suggest the following point be included: - Alternative options for ICANN's jurisdiction (understood as 'place of legal establishment') based on possible accountability limitations related to the current jurisdiction of the Corporation (identified during WS1); I assume the first item ("enhancements to ICANN's accountability based on the law(s) applicable to its actions") of the proposed WS2 list may also refer to jurisdiction, but I believe a clear reference to the term and to what we discussed in Istanbul is more adequate. Note: I take the opportunity to thank Greg Shatan for his useful distinction of the various meanings associated with the term 'jurisdiction'. Kind regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 < <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 < <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609> -----Mensagem original----- De: <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [ <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 10:58 Para: <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2 Dear Colleagues, As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul. With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative. the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call). Thanks for your consideration, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 < <tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006> tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006> <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill ***************************** _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Dear Colleagues, Thank you for sharing these inputs and kicking off this discussion. This is a bit like a "chicken and egg" issue because, of course we need to be quite specific on the issues we intend to address, but as long as we don't have our WS1 proposals fully reviewed by legal advisors (and I'm aware of the questions that were raised by Pedro to the legal group) it is difficult to be specific. I will take note of both comments in the draft, and will flag as a discussion point for the CCWG to consider. best Mathieu Le 17/04/2015 02:21, Paul Rosenzweig a écrit :
Why would we list in WS2 an inquiry into possible problems we have not yet identified and of which we are not yet aware? We might as well list “possible adverse action by the GAC” or “possible default by ICANN on its debt” or thousands of other possibilities that are evanescent and indeterminate. I agree, of course, that IF our inquiry suggests a real problem it would be appropriate to place it on the WS2 agenda. But identifying as agenda item a contingent possibility of indeterminate provenance simply because of its political salience is, I respectfully submit, inadmissible. WS2 is filled enough with problems and issues we actually know exist … we shouldn’t put down placeholders for every issue that some consider of possible merit.
Paul
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*From:* Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva [mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br] *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:12 PM *To:* 'Greg Shatan' *Cc:* accountability-cross-community@icann.org *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] RES: RES: Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2
Dear Greg,
Thank you for the email.
We have just started to interact with the legal firms and are slowly being acquainted with their advice. In the course of the next weeks/months I believe we will be able to better identify whether there are limitations or not regarding ICANN's current jurisdiction. This is why I wrote "*_possible_* accountability limitations".
Maybe the text at the end of the sentence is a bit misleading, but I didn't mean they have been already identified. This is still work in progress.
Regards,
Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva
Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI)
Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil
T: + 55 61 2030-6609
Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva
Division of Information Society (DI)
Ministry of External Relations - Brazil
T: + 55 61 2030-6609
-----Mensagem original----- De: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 18:02 Para: Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Cc: Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr <mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr>; accountability-cross-community@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Assunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2
Pedro,
First, your thanks are very much appreciated, and I thank you for them in return.
Second, would you be so kind as to provide some of the possible accountability limitations you refer to, or direct me to where they have been identified? I would like to make sure that I understand the concern.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva <pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br <mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br>> wrote:
Dear CCWG-Colleagues,
I suggest the following point be included:
- Alternative options for ICANN's jurisdiction (understood as 'place of legal establishment') based on possible accountability limitations related to the current jurisdiction of the Corporation (identified during WS1);
I assume the first item ("enhancements to ICANN's accountability based on the law(s) applicable to its actions") of the proposed WS2 list may also refer to jurisdiction, but I believe a clear reference to the term and to what we discussed in Istanbul is more adequate.
Note: I take the opportunity to thank Greg Shatan for his useful distinction of the various meanings associated with the term 'jurisdiction'.
Kind regards,
Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva
Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI)
Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil
T: + 55 61 2030-6609 <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609>
Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva
Division of Information Society (DI)
Ministry of External Relations - Brazil
T: + 55 61 2030-6609 <tel:%2B%2055%2061%202030-6609>
-----Mensagem original-----
De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de abril de 2015 10:58
Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>
Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Initial draft section 8 - work stream 2
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period”
document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
--
*****************************
Mathieu WEILL
AFNIC - directeur général
Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 <tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006>
mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>
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Good start Mathieu, staff. Here is one suggestion to include as WS2 that has come up in WP1 discussions (not a complete list, just one that comes to mind, and not discussed within WP1 in any formal way) - improvements to ICANN's budgeting and planning process that guarantee the ability for the community to have input, and for that input to be given due consideration cheers Jordan On 17 April 2015 at 01:58, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the "freeze period" document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
-- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
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Dear Co-Chairs Just so that we are all on the same level: I object to the deadline and reserve the right to publish a dissent. el On 2015-04-16 14:58, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As part of our planned report structure for public comment, section 8 is planned to address work stream 2 : what items would be considered and how would we ensure commitment that they will indeed be addressed ? The task of assembling a draft was assigned to the co-chairs in Istanbul.
With precious help from staff, we are circulating this initial draft, building on the idea of a transitional article in the Bylaws, which seemed to get traction in Istanbul. The list of items is very tentative.
the status of the document is an Initial draft. Amendments sent before Friday 17 Apr 15.00 UTC will be incorporated into the “freeze period” document. And of course, full and detailed review will be on the agenda of our intense work days (so this is NOT an urgent last call).
Thanks for your consideration,
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