Hello all, The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability co-Chairs Meeting with Lawyers , 1 March 2016, will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/UxWAAw A copy of the notes and action items may be found below. Thank you. Kind regards, Brenda Action Items ACTION ITEM: Rosemary and Holly to review previous quotes - based on IRP experience - and determine whether adjustments needed. ACTION ITEM - Schedule a debrief call after Marrakech to finalize this discussion. Notes These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript. WS 1 implementation Legal counsel: CoChairs should proposed a way forward for WS1 implementation upon which we can react. CCWG: Work plan decisions are to be made with full group. We have used legal counsel estimate in our discussions with ICANN finances. We anticipate setting up subgroup(s) to oversee drafting in coordination in ICANN legal - outcome of these groups would be sent to the full CCWG. ICANN Board is getting organized to follow this work very closely and we expect Board engagement. Legal expenses are being publicized. There is community concern about amount being spent. We will however need to implement more cross-control measures. We should try to structure quotes in a way that they are linked to the project plan. We need to be more cognizant of expenditures: initial draft and two revisions could be a potential structure. Legal counsel: Cost is driven by way community works. Finding consensus is hard process. It is difficult for us to provide realistic estimates. Developing estimates take time. Recommend to sit in a "cave" and produce a report. Ask questions to whomever is available. Issue draft and discuss. Concerned about process where negotiating at outset. To work with other legal counsel is complex. To not charge for quotes, we must rethink the discounted basis CCWG: Access to arrangements between ICANN and firms would be helpful. Discussion on rates and quotes is desirable. Move forward with providing quotes for "cave" approach. Questions should be prioritized for legal counsel to stay within costframe. ACTION ITEM: Rosemary and Holly to review previous quotes - based on IRP experience - and determine whether adjustments needed. WS2 We are looking towards drafting team approach for WS2 items. Intensity of legal expertise might not reach same level as WS1 needed but will need legal advice at some point. We will be working on framework in Marrakech. Legal Counsel - On jurisdiction, group needs to get clarity on terminology. If do it without legal input, it will be very confusing. It could benefit from upfront engagement. CCWG needs to be mindful of resources and time management. More heads-up needed. CCWG: Vice versa - CCWG would need time indications from legal counsel to build work plan. Board Finance Committee Legal costs is one component of it. Some ideas are yet to be investigated. It will be an agenda item in Marrakech. One of discusions was to work on estimates. Board Finance committee was looking into reinforcing project management of our group and in-house counsel reporting to IANA project. Other ideas: prioritizaton, time management etc Legal Counsel - not wedded to holding the pen. Sometimes easier if do work ourselves straight from beginning. ACTION ITEM - Schedule a debrief call after Marrakech to finalize this discussion.