Dear Professor Mueller, you probably neglected to consider that you performed in front of a witness. I am absolutely certain that I did not demand your use of uncouth language. I am, however, happy to agree that your conduct was absurd. Your suggestion that "interested" individuals may contact you privately is understood by me like your initial outrage that you prefer to do this behind the backs of the individuals concerned. Never mind that you specifically permitted me to forward, as per your below fullquote. All in all, even pretty lame. I really had expected more. el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Feb 11, 2015, at 09:56, Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> wrote:

Dear Dr. Lisse I am sorry that you feel the need to make a public issue out of an absurd personal spat that you instigated. But if you are going to do that you do need to tell the truth.

I refuse to pollute lists with serious governance purposes with these kinds of exchanges. If anyone is interested in knowing more about what happened they can email me privately.

--MM

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-----Original Message----- From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:el@lisse.NA] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:59 PM To: Milton L Mueller Cc: ccnso-members@icann.org; cctldcommunity@cctld-managers.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org; Lisse Eberhard Subject: Re: Milton Mueller's Twitter Account hacked?

Dear Professor Mueller,

thank you very much for accosting me this morning while I was sitting at a the table in the restaurant conducting a business breakfast.

I wish to record, that you refused to leave when asked politely and referred to me and I quote: "asshole". In front of a witness, I might add.

Since I am partial to concise language on occasion I will not take the matter any further. Even though in Singapore they might still have the Crimen Injuria still on the books as we have in Namibia.

However, I am not convinced that an authority of your stature involved in the ICG should resort to such language and tactics.

I wish however to thank you for the below permission to post the previous correspondence to the lists so that this gets put into the proper context.

greetings, el (Asshole)

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On 2015-02-10 18:19 , Milton L Mueller wrote: Dear Dr. Lisse,

Yes, you can forward this:

Thanks, Dr. Lisse, I appreciate your concern. Apparently, it was actually SGdickinson’s Twitter account that was hacked, she tweeted that Disspain said "CCs in danger of losing all ccnso has fought for"

And “can’t believe we might agree to new body that means CC's have to go through [creation of CCNSO] again”

*From:*Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:epilisse@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:48 AM *To:* Milton L Mueller *Cc:* Lisse Eberhard *Subject:* Re: Milton Mueller's Twitter Account hacked?

Dear Professor Mueller,

I don't use Twitter because of the noise to content ratio, but if it was you who called someone a lyer behind his back who I can not recall in the 15 years I know him having lied even once, it is most definitively out of order.

If you had had the courage to stand up there and then and say it to his face so he could respond I would have no onjections. As you may know I am partial to concise language myself.

Or were you not even there and this is what they call a retweet or whatever spreading uncorroborated second hand information is called these days?

May I have your permission to post this to the two lists I cced this, to which you perhaps may not be able to post to, and I will ensure that you get copies of everything and will post your responses uncommented.

greetings, el

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Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s

On Feb 10, 2015, at 17:07, Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu <mailto:mueller@syr.edu>> wrote:

Thanks, Dr. Lisse, I appreciate your concern. Apparently, it was actually SGdickinson’s Twitter account that was hacked, se tweeted that Disspain said "CCs in danger of losing all ccnso has fought for"

And “cant believe we might agree to new body that means CC's have to go through creation of CCNSO again”

*From:*Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:epilisse@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:58 AM *To:* Milton L Mueller *Cc:* ccNSO Members; cctldworld@icann.org <mailto:cctldworld@icann.org>; ccTLD Community List; Chris Disspain; Lisse Eberhard *Subject:* Milton Mueller's Twitter Account hacked?

Dear Professor Mueller,

it apears someone hacked your Twitter account and posted the below outrageosity.

Please alert Twitter securitysi they can trace the culprit and restore your security.

greetings, el

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Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s

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