Dear Jordan, GE. May I request you to kindly advised that ADOBE CONNECTION be sent to me Kavouss 2015-03-18 20:56 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:

The call is not for another hour and four minutes.

Greg Shatan

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:41 PM, <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> wrote:

...

hi all

I’m being unable to enter the room this afternoon. Is there any problem about it? My connection died waiting an answer from the meeting host.

Anybody has the same trouble?

Regards, Jorge

*From:* Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* wp1@icann.org *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for WP1 meeting #5 - 18 March 2015, 21-23h UTC

Hi all

Here is proposed agenda:

*1. Review of Agenda*

*2. Review of CCWG meeting and any actions arising*

*3. Substantive Content to Review:*

Note our *progress/status chart* is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DaROrG8fIGVEdwuBv-GBKP3cG8UJGQUPKjFh...

Note also that *content* should all be available on the Wiki at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/WP1+Draft+Documents

*Powers matters:* - AOC incorporation - Matthew Shears (as just circulated by me) - Removing ICANN Board - Malcolm Hutty (see his previously circulated amendment to Removal of Board template) - Updates on any missing ones as per the chart

*Mechanisms matters:* - A - Existing SO/AC structures - Jordan - B - Permanent CCWG - Jordan - C - Statutory Delegates - Edward - D - Statutory Members - Edward - G - Community Council - Jordan

*4. Our meeting Sunday 22 March 17:30-1900 local time in Istanbul*

*5. Any Other Business*

best Jordan

-- Jordan Carter

Chief Executive *InternetNZ*

04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob) jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter

*A better world through a better Internet *

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I have a hypothetical scenario.... Addressing Countries... What if Amazon the company sought the gTLD of .Amazon and Amazon the geographical area wanted .amazon Would .amazon automatically be the Amazon's the geographical or would Amazon be forced to Court to defend what is naturally the Amazon's, the geographical Sincerely Carrie Devorah www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:

The Adobe Connect link is https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Kavouss Arasteh < kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:

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Dear Jordan, GE. May I request you to kindly advised that ADOBE CONNECTION be sent to me Kavouss

2015-03-18 20:56 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:

...

The call is not for another hour and four minutes.

Greg Shatan

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:41 PM, <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> wrote:

...

hi all

I’m being unable to enter the room this afternoon. Is there any problem about it? My connection died waiting an answer from the meeting host.

Anybody has the same trouble?

Regards, Jorge

*From:* Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* wp1@icann.org *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for WP1 meeting #5 - 18 March 2015, 21-23h UTC

Hi all

Here is proposed agenda:

*1. Review of Agenda*

*2. Review of CCWG meeting and any actions arising*

*3. Substantive Content to Review:*

Note our *progress/status chart* is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DaROrG8fIGVEdwuBv-GBKP3cG8UJGQUPKjFh...

Note also that *content* should all be available on the Wiki at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/WP1+Draft+Documents

*Powers matters:* - AOC incorporation - Matthew Shears (as just circulated by me) - Removing ICANN Board - Malcolm Hutty (see his previously circulated amendment to Removal of Board template) - Updates on any missing ones as per the chart

*Mechanisms matters:* - A - Existing SO/AC structures - Jordan - B - Permanent CCWG - Jordan - C - Statutory Delegates - Edward - D - Statutory Members - Edward - G - Community Council - Jordan

*4. Our meeting Sunday 22 March 17:30-1900 local time in Istanbul*

*5. Any Other Business*

best Jordan

-- Jordan Carter

Chief Executive *InternetNZ*

04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob) jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter

*A better world through a better Internet *

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-- Sincerely CARRIE Devorah 562 688 2883 DISCLAIMER : With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so. If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you must? Take a lesson from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow

In that there are so few volunteers crossing over in to so many of the strings, confusion does happen. Thank you for your informative email Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:

Carrie,

First, this seems like a non sequitur to me. Can you explain how this is relevant to the work of WP1? I've reviewed the agenda materials at the beginning of this email thread and I don't see the connection.

Second, you should be aware that this is not entirely a hypothetical scenario. It is a hypothetical variation on actual events.

Third, if two parties (regardless of who they are) apply for the same gTLD, the AGB (the new gTLD Applicant Guidebook, in case you are not familiar with it) details how such "contention sets" may be resolved. So, this is also not really a hypothetical situation. As such, there is no need to speculate or hypothesize the ways in which a contention set could be resolved, and what if any variable could serve to elevate one application above another.

Fourth, I would disagree emphatically with your assumption that "the Amazon" (which is a river, by the way, and not any type of geopolitical entity) has some sort of legally cognizable claim to ".Amazon" and further, that that claim (assuming purely for the sake of argument that it has a legal basis) is somehow superior to the intellectual property rights (which are absolutely a legally cognizable claim) of Amazon the company. I recognize that there are those who disagree and that this is indeed a live discussion elsewhere in ICANN.

For all of the reasons above, I don't think it's appropriate to raise this question in this forum. We have enough relevant matters to discuss.

Thanks.

Greg

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Carrie Devorah <carriedev@gmail.com> wrote: I have a hypothetical scenario....

Addressing Countries...

What if Amazon the company sought the gTLD of .Amazon and Amazon the geographical area wanted .amazon

Would .amazon automatically be the Amazon's the geographical or would Amazon be forced to Court to defend what is naturally the Amazon's, the geographical

Sincerely Carrie Devorah www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com

...

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote: The Adobe Connect link is https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/.

...

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Jordan, GE. May I request you to kindly advised that ADOBE CONNECTION be sent to me Kavouss

2015-03-18 20:56 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:

...

The call is not for another hour and four minutes.

Greg Shatan

...

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:41 PM, <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> wrote: hi all

I’m being unable to enter the room this afternoon. Is there any problem about it? My connection died waiting an answer from the meeting host.

Anybody has the same trouble?

Regards, Jorge

From: Jordan Carter Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:07 PM To: wp1@icann.org Cc: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for WP1 meeting #5 - 18 March 2015, 21-23h UTC

Hi all

Here is proposed agenda:

1. Review of Agenda

2. Review of CCWG meeting and any actions arising

3. Substantive Content to Review:

Note our progress/status chart is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DaROrG8fIGVEdwuBv-GBKP3cG8UJGQUPKjFh...

Note also that content should all be available on the Wiki at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/WP1+Draft+Documents

Powers matters: - AOC incorporation - Matthew Shears (as just circulated by me) - Removing ICANN Board - Malcolm Hutty (see his previously circulated amendment to Removal of Board template) - Updates on any missing ones as per the chart

Mechanisms matters: - A - Existing SO/AC structures - Jordan - B - Permanent CCWG - Jordan - C - Statutory Delegates - Edward - D - Statutory Members - Edward - G - Community Council - Jordan

4. Our meeting Sunday 22 March 17:30-1900 local time in Istanbul

5. Any Other Business

best Jordan

-- Jordan Carter

Chief Executive InternetNZ

04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob) jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter

A better world through a better Internet

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-- Sincerely CARRIE Devorah 562 688 2883

DISCLAIMER : With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so. If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you must? Take a lesson from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow