Dear Mr Arasteh, I remain confused by your advice. Are these the positions of ICG, GAC or both? And where can I read more about them? Can you perhaps provide a link? And I can't find them in the charter either, do you think you can point me there? el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Dec 11, 2014, at 22:52, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all, Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss

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Dear Malcolm, Dear Mathew, Dear Thomas Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a participant, the points are still valid. I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which is a time wasting issue. Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group They are more than valid. Kavouss 2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net>:

On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

...

Dear all, Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above

I agree.

If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew.

Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc)

If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so.

Kind Regards,

Malcolm.

(*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?

...

All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss

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Kavouss, I apologise for being so blunt. Most of us haven’t got time to read your drivel. Please go away, get yourself up to speed, and allow us to focus on the very difficult tasks ahead. Thanks, Phil Buckingham From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: 12 December 2014 08:42 To: Malcolm Hutty Cc: Accountability Cross Community Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Dear Malcolm, Dear Mathew, Dear Thomas Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a participant, the points are still valid. I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which is a time wasting issue. Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group They are more than valid. Kavouss 2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net>: On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

Dear all, Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above

I agree. If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew. Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc) If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so. Kind Regards, Malcolm. (*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?

All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss

2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>:

Dear all,

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I fully support this statement. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben From: Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:00 PM To: phil@dotadvice.co.uk Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Dear Mr. Buckingham Your message below, addressed to Kavouss Arasteh, representative of the Government of Iran, does not meet the standards that we all as members of the ICANN community should treat and talk to each other. You may disagree with the points someone makes, you may have the view that somebody is taking up to much time/space on a mailing list. This is all fine and it is your right to communicate such views. But we all – as members of the global ICANN community – should always express ourselves with respect and take care of the words we use. We are here working together in a global environment with people coming from very different stakeholder backgrounds and also from very different regions of the world with different cultures and ways of expressing ourselves. But what we should all have in common when engaging – agreeing or disagreeing – with each other is a minimal standard of decency and manners in the way we talk to each other. Thank you for giving this due regard in future communications. Best, Thomas Schneider Chair of the GAC P.S. if the honourable queen of the united kingdom knew that someone with such a name expresses himself in such a way as you just did, she would probably be “not amused” J Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Phil Buckingham Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 16:46 An: 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Malcolm Hutty' Cc: 'Accountability Cross Community' Betreff: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Kavouss, I apologise for being so blunt. Most of us haven’t got time to read your drivel. Please go away, get yourself up to speed, and allow us to focus on the very difficult tasks ahead. Thanks, Phil Buckingham From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: 12 December 2014 08:42 To: Malcolm Hutty Cc: Accountability Cross Community Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Dear Malcolm, Dear Mathew, Dear Thomas Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a participant, the points are still valid. I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which is a time wasting issue. Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group They are more than valid. Kavouss 2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net>: On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

Dear all, Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above

I agree. If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew. Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc) If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so. Kind Regards, Malcolm. (*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?

All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss

2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>:

Dear all,

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As do I, and I very much regret any hurt feelings or lack of respect send to Mr. Arasteh. We appreciate his participation. Susan Ariel Aaronson, Ph.D. On 12/12/2014 11:48 AM, Olga Cavalli wrote:

Hi, I support the statement made by Thomas Schneider, GAC chair. Regards Olga Cavalli

2014-12-12 13:00 GMT-03:00 <Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch>>:

Dear Mr. Buckingham

Your message below, addressed to Kavouss Arasteh, representative of the Government of Iran, does not meet the standards that we all as members of the ICANN community should treat and talk to each other.

You may disagree with the points someone makes, you may have the view that somebody is taking up to much time/space on a mailing list.

This is all fine and it is your right to communicate such views.

But we all -- as members of the global ICANN community -- should always express ourselves with respect and take care of the words we use.

We are here working together in a global environment with people coming from very different stakeholder backgrounds and also from very different regions of the world with different cultures and ways of expressing ourselves.

But what we should all have in common when engaging -- agreeing or disagreeing -- with each other is a minimal standard of decency and manners in the way we talk to each other.

Thank you for giving this due regard in future communications.

Best,

Thomas Schneider

Chair of the GAC

P.S.

if the honourable queen of the united kingdom knew that someone with such a name expresses himself in such a way as you just did, she would probably be "not amused" J

*Von:*accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Phil Buckingham *Gesendet:* Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 16:46 *An:* 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Malcolm Hutty' *Cc:* 'Accountability Cross Community' *Betreff:* Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas!

Kavouss,

I apologise for being so blunt.

Most of us haven't got time to read your drivel.

Please go away, get yourself up to speed, and allow us to focus on the very difficult tasks ahead.

Thanks,

Phil Buckingham

*From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kavouss Arasteh *Sent:* 12 December 2014 08:42 *To:* Malcolm Hutty *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas!

Dear Malcolm,

Dear Mathew,

Dear Thomas

Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a participant, the points are still valid.

I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which is a time wasting issue.

Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group

They are more than valid.

Kavouss

2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net <mailto:malcolm@linx.net>>:

On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: > Dear all, > Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above

I agree.

If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew.

Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc)

If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so.

Kind Regards,

Malcolm.

(*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?

> All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial > and other forum must be collected > But these are excising materials . > What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table > What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? > What about the AoC ?/ > What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? > What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? > Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming > There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline > comments not less than one month > Regards > Kavouss > > 2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> > <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>>: > > Dear all, > > Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work > areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested. > > *Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1 & > ATRT 2 Recommendations)____* > > *Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David Maher / Samantha Eisner____ > > Volunteers: ____ > > * Robin Gross____ > > __ __ > > Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____ <https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____> > > Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org> > <mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org>>____ > > Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability1/____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > *Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items > into Work Streams 1 & 2____* > > Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify > whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.____ > > *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve DelBianco____ > > Volunteers: ____ > > * Jordan Carter____ > * Leon Sanchez____ > > __ __ > > Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____ <https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____> > > Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org> > <mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>>____ > > Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability2/____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > *Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship____* > > *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC____ > > Volunteers: ____ > > * Jordan Carter____ > * Leon Sanchez____ > * Yasuichi Kitamura____ > > __ __ > > Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw____ > > Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability3@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org> > <mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org>>____ > > Public archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability3/____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > *Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to > WS1)____* > > *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric Brunner-Williams____ > > Volunteers: ____ > > __ __ > > Link: https://community.icann.org/x/aIMQAw____ > > Mailing List Address: ccwg-accountability4@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org> > <mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org>>____ > > Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability4/____ > > __ __ > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> > <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org>> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community >

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We would also like to support the statement made by GAC Chair Thomas Schneider. Best regards, Julia Wolman and Finn Petersen Fra: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] På vegne af Pär Brumark Sendt: 12. december 2014 18:18 Til: Olga Cavalli; Schneider, Thomas Cc: Accountability Cross Community Emne: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! I also fully support the statement made by GAC Chair Thomas Schneider. It is of the at most importance that we all use a respectful tone whether we agree or disagree. Kind Regards, Pär Brumark Olga Cavalli skrev den 2014-12-12 17:48: Hi, I support the statement made by Thomas Schneider, GAC chair. Regards Olga Cavalli 2014-12-12 13:00 GMT-03:00 <Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch>>: Dear Mr. Buckingham Your message below, addressed to Kavouss Arasteh, representative of the Government of Iran, does not meet the standards that we all as members of the ICANN community should treat and talk to each other. You may disagree with the points someone makes, you may have the view that somebody is taking up to much time/space on a mailing list. This is all fine and it is your right to communicate such views. But we all - as members of the global ICANN community - should always express ourselves with respect and take care of the words we use. We are here working together in a global environment with people coming from very different stakeholder backgrounds and also from very different regions of the world with different cultures and ways of expressing ourselves. But what we should all have in common when engaging - agreeing or disagreeing - with each other is a minimal standard of decency and manners in the way we talk to each other. Thank you for giving this due regard in future communications. Best, Thomas Schneider Chair of the GAC P.S. if the honourable queen of the united kingdom knew that someone with such a name expresses himself in such a way as you just did, she would probably be "not amused" :) Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>] Im Auftrag von Phil Buckingham Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 16:46 An: 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Malcolm Hutty' Cc: 'Accountability Cross Community' Betreff: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Kavouss, I apologise for being so blunt. Most of us haven't got time to read your drivel. Please go away, get yourself up to speed, and allow us to focus on the very difficult tasks ahead. Thanks, Phil Buckingham From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: 12 December 2014 08:42 To: Malcolm Hutty Cc: Accountability Cross Community Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas! Dear Malcolm, Dear Mathew, Dear Thomas Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as a participant, the points are still valid. I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which is a time wasting issue. Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group They are more than valid. Kavouss 2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net<mailto:malcolm@linx.net>>: On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

Dear all, Collection of existing info should not be limited to those mentioned above

I agree. If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew. Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc) If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so. Kind Regards, Malcolm. (*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?

All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss

2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>>:

Dear all,

Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested.

*Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1 & ATRT 2 Recommendations)____*

*Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David Maher / Samantha Eisner____

Volunteers: ____

* Robin Gross____

__ __

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org>>____

Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability1/____

__ __

__ __

*Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items into Work Streams 1 & 2____*

Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.____

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve DelBianco____

Volunteers: ____

* Jordan Carter____ * Leon Sanchez____

__ __

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>>____

Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability2/____

__ __

__ __

*Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship____*

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC____

Volunteers: ____

* Jordan Carter____ * Leon Sanchez____ * Yasuichi Kitamura____

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Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw____

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability3@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org>>____

Public archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability3/____

__ __

__ __

*Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to WS1)____*

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric Brunner-Williams____

Volunteers: ____

__ __

Link: https://community.icann.org/x/aIMQAw____

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Agree with Malcolm that our CCWG will be able to develop new accountability ideas that have not previously been suggested in public lists. My sense is that work assignments for our next meeting are intended to provide a starting point, by listing accountability suggestions already posted thus far. — Steve DelBianco Executive Director NetChoice http://www.NetChoice.org<http://www.netchoice.org/> and http://blog.netchoice.org<http://blog.netchoice.org/> +1.202.420.7482 On 12/12/14, 7:28 AM, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm@linx.net<mailto:malcolm@linx.net>> wrote: If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public comment period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew. Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc) If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so that the group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new matters can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so. Kind Regards, Malcolm. (*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would include both "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either? All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF, NetMundial and other forum must be collected But these are excising materials . What new elements, new ideas , innovative approach are on the table What an bout the review of RFP initially published by NTIA? What about the AoC ?/ What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ? What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC? Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG limited to naming There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient deadline comments not less than one month Regards Kavouss 2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>: Dear all, Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested. *Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1 & ATRT 2 Recommendations)____* *Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David Maher / Samantha Eisner____ Volunteers: ____ * Robin Gross____ __ __ Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____ Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability1@icann.org>____ Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability1/____ __ __ __ __ *Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items into Work Streams 1 & 2____* Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.____ *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve DelBianco____ Volunteers: ____ * Jordan Carter____ * Leon Sanchez____ __ __ Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____ Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability2@icann.org>____ Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability2/____ __ __ __ __ *Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship____* *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC____ Volunteers: ____ * Jordan Carter____ * Leon Sanchez____ * Yasuichi Kitamura____ __ __ Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw____ Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability3@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability3@icann.org>____ Public archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability3/____ __ __ __ __ *Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to WS1)____* *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric Brunner-Williams____ Volunteers: ____ __ __ Link: https://community.icann.org/x/aIMQAw____ Mailing List Address: ccwg-accountability4@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org> <mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org>____ Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability4/____ __ __ _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd 21-27 St Thomas Street, London SE1 9RY Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community

I would like to join working group 3. Thank you Best Regards On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Grace,

Do pen me down on work-area 3

Thanks

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear all,

Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested.

*Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1 & ATRT 2 Recommendations)*

*Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David Maher / Samantha Eisner

Volunteers:

- Robin Gross

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1@icann.org

Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability1/

*Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items into Work Streams 1 & 2*

Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve DelBianco

Volunteers:

- Jordan Carter - Leon Sanchez

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2@icann.org

Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability2/

*Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship*

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC

Volunteers:

- Jordan Carter - Leon Sanchez - Yasuichi Kitamura

Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw

Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability3@icann.org

Public archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability3/

*Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to WS1)*

*Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric Brunner-Williams

Volunteers:

Link: https://community.icann.org/x/aIMQAw

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Oops I missed to delete the ML - I intended to e-mail Grace indivisually. For those who are not at the call, there was a suggestion to send request to join Work Area indivisually, to focus the ML on discussions and save e-mail traffic. Izumi (2014/12/16 20:35), Izumi Okutani wrote:

Dear Grace,

I would like to volunteer for "Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items into Work Streams 1 & 2".

Please let me know if you need any other information to have me join this group.

Thanks, Izumi

(2014/12/11 14:18), Grace Abuhamad wrote:

...

Dear all,

Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested.

Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including ATRT 1 & ATRT 2 Recommendations) Coordinators/Rapporteurs: David Maher / Samantha Eisner Volunteers: * Robin Gross

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1@icann.org Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability1/

Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and Categorize Items into Work Streams 1 & 2 Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both. Coordinator/Rapporteur: Steve DelBianco Volunteers: * Jordan Carter * Leon Sanchez

Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2@icann.org Public Archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability2/

Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship Coordinator/Rapporteur: TBC Volunteers: * Jordan Carter * Leon Sanchez * Yasuichi Kitamura

Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability3@icann.org Public archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-accountability3/

Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to WS1) Coordinator/Rapporteur: Eric Brunner-Williams Volunteers:

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