For information: example of community interaction during the planning process - Dublin's planning workshop
To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN's planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN's planning process or another organization's planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052
Xavier, I would prefer much more to just get the figures we requested. All cost relating to the transition in a simple format, not some financials. And I have requested the raw data used to produce the published ICANN meeting related travel costs a while ago, followed up once and not received a response from constituency travel support. I want the same CSV/XLS data for all transition related travel. I want the (wo)man hours put in by staff into the transition (at least ICG, CWG and CWG). I want the consulting fees (not by names of course), and same for experts. I want all legal fees. You, the CFO, engaging us now, means we now have the right person to,ask. Can you please provide us, in the spirit of accountability and transparency, with all the figures in an easily manageable format? And a timeline by when this will happen? greetings, el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 5 Nov 2015, at 23:14, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:
To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN’s planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN’s planning process or another organization’s planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you.
Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez
CFO
ICANN
12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Office: +1 (310) 301-5838
Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348
Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052
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How is this request relevant to the remaining work of the CCWG? I'd support receipt of these figures after our work is finished, but it seems irrelevant now, and would be an incomplete snapshot at best. Regards, Keith On Nov 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na<mailto:el@lisse.na>> wrote: Xavier, I would prefer much more to just get the figures we requested. All cost relating to the transition in a simple format, not some financials. And I have requested the raw data used to produce the published ICANN meeting related travel costs a while ago, followed up once and not received a response from constituency travel support. I want the same CSV/XLS data for all transition related travel. I want the (wo)man hours put in by staff into the transition (at least ICG, CWG and CWG). I want the consulting fees (not by names of course), and same for experts. I want all legal fees. You, the CFO, engaging us now, means we now have the right person to,ask. Can you please provide us, in the spirit of accountability and transparency, with all the figures in an easily manageable format? And a timeline by when this will happen? greetings, el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini On 5 Nov 2015, at 23:14, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org<mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org>> wrote: To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN’s planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN’s planning process or another organization’s planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 <mime-attachment> _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Dear Co-Chairs, I do not give a dead rat's fuzzy behind about whether Verisign support something I ask or not. Notwithstanding these familiar tactics of "interesting, but..." I am not the only one who has asked. Nor is this unprecedented, some figures have already been published, some activities are finished, and in organizations smaller than Verisign the concept of updating running tallies is not unknown. And the workload is not born by CCWG Accountability staff, ie it does not increase the burden on them. But maybe I do an ALAC and change my views tomorrow. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 6 Nov 2015, at 00:45, Drazek, Keith <kdrazek@verisign.com> wrote:
How is this request relevant to the remaining work of the CCWG? I'd support receipt of these figures after our work is finished, but it seems irrelevant now, and would be an incomplete snapshot at best.
Regards, Keith
On Nov 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na> wrote:
Xavier,
I would prefer much more to just get the figures we requested.
All cost relating to the transition in a simple format, not some financials.
And I have requested the raw data used to produce the published ICANN meeting related travel costs a while ago, followed up once and not received a response from constituency travel support.
I want the same CSV/XLS data for all transition related travel.
I want the (wo)man hours put in by staff into the transition (at least ICG, CWG and CWG).
I want the consulting fees (not by names of course), and same for experts.
I want all legal fees.
You, the CFO, engaging us now, means we now have the right person to,ask.
Can you please provide us, in the spirit of accountability and transparency, with all the figures in an easily manageable format? And a timeline by when this will happen?
greetings, el
-- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 5 Nov 2015, at 23:14, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:
To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN’s planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN’s planning process or another organization’s planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you.
Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez
CFO
ICANN
12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Office: +1 (310) 301-5838
Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348
Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052
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To clarify: * the information I provided in my earlier email illustrates one of the activities that happen during the annual planning/budget process, which has been commented upon in the discussions on the budget veto power. It does not contribute to the remaining transition work, and was not intending to respond to a specific request or question of anyone in the CCWG. If you are not interested in the annual planning/budget process, just ignore my email. * I am unfamiliar with the request that Dr Eberhard Lisse is referring to below. * Regarding the transition costs, if that is the object of the request, here is a link to the information that we have published so far: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs-2015-10..., where there is an entire section on legal costs, invoice by invoice. We are also working on providing additional information, following questions received in Dublin, which will be posted on the same page as the one linked to above, and that should address a portion of the topics that Dr Lisse has listed below. I will provide an update when available. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 From: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 2:45 PM To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na<mailto:el@lisse.na>> Cc: Xavier Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org<mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org>>, Lisse Eberhard <directors@omadhina.NET<mailto:directors@omadhina.NET>>, "accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] For information: example of community interaction during the planning process - Dublin's planning workshop How is this request relevant to the remaining work of the CCWG? I'd support receipt of these figures after our work is finished, but it seems irrelevant now, and would be an incomplete snapshot at best. Regards, Keith On Nov 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na<mailto:el@lisse.na>> wrote: Xavier, I would prefer much more to just get the figures we requested. All cost relating to the transition in a simple format, not some financials. And I have requested the raw data used to produce the published ICANN meeting related travel costs a while ago, followed up once and not received a response from constituency travel support. I want the same CSV/XLS data for all transition related travel. I want the (wo)man hours put in by staff into the transition (at least ICG, CWG and CWG). I want the consulting fees (not by names of course), and same for experts. I want all legal fees. You, the CFO, engaging us now, means we now have the right person to,ask. Can you please provide us, in the spirit of accountability and transparency, with all the figures in an easily manageable format? And a timeline by when this will happen? greetings, el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini On 5 Nov 2015, at 23:14, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org<mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org>> wrote: To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN’s planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN’s planning process or another organization’s planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 <mime-attachment> _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Dear Xavier, The Constituency Travel Support group publishes a PDF report after each meeting detailing the flight costs. I would like to have the data uses to prepare these already published reports in a format amenable to further analysis, such as CSV. I have asked Travel Support but can not find a response thereto in my in tray. I would then like to have all travel costs related to Transition in the same format. I would like to have the workload of staff in hours, including time spent in transit. I would like to have the consulting fees (not necessarily by name) and the fees for experts. The legal costs seem to have been published in a reasonable format already. greetings, el On 2015-11-06 01:15, Xavier J. Calvez wrote: [...]
* I am unfamiliar with the request that Dr Eberhard Lisse is referring to below. [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Dear Eberhard, I am acknowledging receipt of your email request below. I will attempt to respond to it by the end of the week. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 On 11/24/15, 5:58 AM, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.NA> wrote:
Dear Xavier,
The Constituency Travel Support group publishes a PDF report after each meeting detailing the flight costs.
I would like to have the data uses to prepare these already published reports in a format amenable to further analysis, such as CSV.
I have asked Travel Support but can not find a response thereto in my in tray.
I would then like to have all travel costs related to Transition in the same format.
I would like to have the workload of staff in hours, including time spent in transit.
I would like to have the consulting fees (not necessarily by name) and the fees for experts.
The legal costs seem to have been published in a reasonable format already.
greetings, el
On 2015-11-06 01:15, Xavier J. Calvez wrote: [...]
* I am unfamiliar with the request that Dr Eberhard Lisse is referring to below. [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Dear Eberhard, Due to the holidays in the US, we will need more time to provide a comprehensive response to your request below. We will provide a first response, even if partial, by the end of next week. Thanks, Xavier
On Nov 24, 2015, at 05:59, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> wrote:
Dear Xavier,
The Constituency Travel Support group publishes a PDF report after each meeting detailing the flight costs.
I would like to have the data uses to prepare these already published reports in a format amenable to further analysis, such as CSV.
I have asked Travel Support but can not find a response thereto in my in tray.
I would then like to have all travel costs related to Transition in the same format.
I would like to have the workload of staff in hours, including time spent in transit.
I would like to have the consulting fees (not necessarily by name) and the fees for experts.
The legal costs seem to have been published in a reasonable format already.
greetings, el
On 2015-11-06 01:15, Xavier J. Calvez wrote: [...] * I am unfamiliar with the request that Dr Eberhard Lisse is referring to below. [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Xavier, thanks. Time is not of the essence if it is needed to provide the information in this, useful format. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 28 Nov 2015, at 03:55, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Eberhard, Due to the holidays in the US, we will need more time to provide a comprehensive response to your request below. We will provide a first response, even if partial, by the end of next week.
Thanks,
Xavier
On Nov 24, 2015, at 05:59, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> wrote:
Dear Xavier,
The Constituency Travel Support group publishes a PDF report after each meeting detailing the flight costs.
I would like to have the data uses to prepare these already published reports in a format amenable to further analysis, such as CSV.
I have asked Travel Support but can not find a response thereto in my in tray.
I would then like to have all travel costs related to Transition in the same format.
I would like to have the workload of staff in hours, including time spent in transit.
I would like to have the consulting fees (not necessarily by name) and the fees for experts.
The legal costs seem to have been published in a reasonable format already.
greetings, el
On 2015-11-06 01:15, Xavier J. Calvez wrote: [...] * I am unfamiliar with the request that Dr Eberhard Lisse is referring to below. [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Thanks Xavier, I recall, this workshop which was quite usefull. Indeed it is a step in the right direction and should be encouraged based on the interactive exchange. Kindly add me to the lists you have mentioned below, i would like to contribute to the planning process as i did in Dublin. Regards On 11/6/15, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:
To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN's planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN's planning process or another organization's planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you. Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094
Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Barrack, Thank you for participation in the workshop in Dublin, and for continued interest in the planning process which is a key component of ICANN¹s accountability. We will add you to the email distribution list. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 On 11/24/15, 2:02 PM, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Xavier,
I recall, this workshop which was quite usefull. Indeed it is a step in the right direction and should be encouraged based on the interactive exchange.
Kindly add me to the lists you have mentioned below, i would like to contribute to the planning process as i did in Dublin.
Regards
On 11/6/15, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:
To illustrate a number of comments made in the past weeks/months on the positive developments of community input/interaction mechanisms embedded over the past 2 years into ICANN's planning process, you can find attached an example of communication on the workshop that was held on Sunday night 18 October in Dublin, with the active participation of 15 community members, including remotely, and 4 board members from the Finance Committee. This workshop is the second one held (the 1st was in Singapore at ICANN 52), and is confirming to be a valuable exercise of interactive exchange, allowing for direct input that can effectively be taken into account. We will definitely repeat such workshop experience and welcome further participation to them. This is an open type of interaction, there is no set requirement for participation. It is helpful that participants have a basic knowledge of ICANN's planning process or another organization's planning process, in order to have a more effective participation, but participating to these workshops is also a good way to catch up. The email attached is addressed to a list of participants that has been built over the past 3 years, by adding anyone interested in the planning process to it. We use the list to send materials, notifications of upcoming milestones, invitations to webinars, and feedback after workshops or webinars. There is no limitation of any kind to be added to this distribution list and we invite anyone interested to provide my team or I with an email address to be added. Being on the list does not create any specific work requirement, but simply allows to participate if desired. I am happy to answer any questions on this or any aspect of the planning process. Thank you. Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez CFO ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094
Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
participants (4)
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Barrack Otieno -
Dr Eberhard W Lisse -
Drazek, Keith -
Xavier J. Calvez