Very true...but not fair. . However. .let us not forget that Africa is part of the global processes. ..one will not wait for our word retrospectively. .We just have to join in this Call to put things right in ICANN for the global community. With due respect. Yassin Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Date:30/08/2014 09:51 (GMT+02:00) To: Ben Fuller <abutiben@gmail.com> Cc: ALAC Afrique <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>,AFRALO <staff@atlarge.icann.org>,afrinic-discuss <afrinic-discuss@afrinic.net>,AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: Response to ICANN accountability process - How about Africa? Hello Ben, Barrack, all Just to mention that there are also formal request for reconsideration that has been made by some communities within ICANN https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/request-bc-rysg-ncsg-29aug14-en.... The question however is whether these will make any difference to a process that has already been put in action to the extent of appointing PEG members. Nevertheless it may be good to add to the voice for all its worth Cheers! On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Ben Fuller <abutiben@gmail.com> wrote: Barrack, Its early and cold here in Namibia. :-) Let's see what the rest of Africa thinks once they finish breakfast or their Saturday morning shopping. But this is an important issue that will affect us here in Africa. Ben On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Dr. Fuller,
I have looked at the text and there is a lot of sense in so far as the issues raised by the stakeholders are concerned, they are well thought out and articulated, i was just looking at it from another perspective.
Thank you for the quick turnaround.
Regards
Barrack,
Perhaps, but we should seriously consider joining all the other communities. Scroll down to the bottom of the article where the full text of the joint letter sent to ICANN is posted. We should focus on that text.
Ben
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dr Fuller,
You raise a very pertinent issue while i am in agreement with you, i also think we have to be wary of decisions that will over engineer decision making processes within ICANN since this could result in some analysis paralysis sort of scenario, what is your take?
Just a thought.
On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <abutiben@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
Aziz has come up with a good idea. It is also timely. Please follow
link below and you'll see that we are in a critical time for transparency and accountability. I suggest that we draft something in line with the letter sent by all the other ICANN communities.
I will be willing to be part of the drafting team.
Best,
Ben
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140828_icann_community_issues_letter_questio...
2014-08-24 21:37 GMT+01:00 Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr>:
[English]
Dear all,
As we have done in previous ICANN meetings, AFRALO will be holding a
AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting to discuss an issue or topic of interest to our region at the scheduled ICANN 51 meeting in Los Angeles, which takes
joint place
from 12-16 October 2014.
I would like to propose the following topic: "IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African Community”
Please provide your opinion on the choice of this subject and suggest an alternative one in case you think it is more relevant. We would appreciate your proposal, comments and suggestions within a couple of weeks (before September 7, 2014). The theme must have the approval of both AfrICANN and AFRALO lists and should be relevant to the interest of two organizations: AfrICANN and AFRALO.
This meeting will issue as usual, a "joint statement" to the attention of ICANN. Those who want to participate in the drafting committee are requested to express their interest. The committee will propose to
On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <abutiben@gmail.com> wrote: the the
Community, a draft statement to be discussed at the joint meeting in Los Angeles.
The AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting has become a tradition that we organize since Brussels. The objective is to express the views of the African ICANN community on current issues that are of interest to our community.
Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair
[French]
Chers tous,
Comme nous l'avons fait au cours des précédentes réunions de l'ICANN, AFRALO organisera à Los Angeles la réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN pour débattre d’une question ou d’un sujet d'intérêt pour notre région. Je voudrais pour cela vous proposer le thème suivant : «Transition de l’IANA et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine»
Le but de ce courriel est de vous demander votre opinion sur le choix de ce sujet et de bien vouloir le cas échéant proposer un thème que vous pensez être plus pertinent. Prière envoyer vos remarques et propositions dans une quinzaine de jours (avant le 7 septembre 2014). Le sujet choisi devra avoir l’approbation des deux listes AfrICANN et Afralo et devrait prendre en considération l'intérêt de deux organisations: AfrICANN et AFRALO.
Cette réunion aboutira comme d’habitude à la présentation d'une “déclaration commune” à l’attention de l'ICANN. Les personnes souhaitant participer au comité de rédaction sont priées de le signaler. Ce comité proposera à la Communauté, un projet de déclaration à l'ICANN qui sera discutée à la réunion de Los Angeles.
Il est à noter que l'intérêt de cette tradition que nous organisons ensemble depuis Bruxelles, est d'exprimer le point de vue de la communauté africaine de l'ICANN sur les questions d'actualité et d'intérêt pour notre communauté.
Cordialement
Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO
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