Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
[English] AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption. Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair [Français] AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique". En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015. Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption. Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO
Dear Aziz, Some minor changes: Original: - We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal. Dave: - We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO. Original: - Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. Dave:- Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination. Original: - We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. Dave:- We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. Original: - While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report. Dave: - We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern. Original: - We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers. Dave: - We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers. Original: - Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. Dave: - We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. Original: - We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world. Dave: - The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large. Best regards Dave From: afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Aziz Hilali Sent: 08 October 2015 01:59 To: afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" [English] AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption. Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair [Français] AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres dAFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour lAfrique". En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015. Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que lon puisse les inclure avant dimprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification sil y a lieu et adoption. Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président dAFRALO
Thanks Aziz Please would there be remote participation plan. Regards Remmy Nweke @ITRealms ____ REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria> NDSF 2016 <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153112418861429&set=a.119216361428.104226.716351428&type=1> _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@isoc-mu.org> wrote:
Dear Aziz,
Some minor changes:
*Original: -* *We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal.*
*Dave: -* We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO.
*Original: -* *Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. *
*Dave:-* Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination.
*Original: -* *We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.*
*Dave:-* We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.
*Original: -* *While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report.*
*Dave: -* We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern.
*Original: -* *We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers.*
*Dave: -* We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers.
*Original: -* *Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.*
*Dave: -* We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.
*Original: -* *We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world.*
*Dave: -* The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large.
Best regards
Dave
*From:* afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Aziz Hilali *Sent:* 08 October 2015 01:59 *To:* afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List *Subject:* [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
*[English]*
AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015.
Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.
Best Regards
Aziz Hilali
AFRALO Chair
*[Français] *
AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique".
En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015.
Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO
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Dear Remmy Yes, you will receive the link to Remote participation. Best Aziz Le Jeudi 8 octobre 2015 10h56, Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com> a écrit : Thanks Aziz Please would there be remote participation plan. Regards Remmy Nweke @ITRealms ____ REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd [Multiple-award winning medium] (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria NDSF 2016 _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@isoc-mu.org> wrote: Dear Aziz,
Some minor changes: Original: -We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal. Dave: -We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO. Original: -Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. Dave:-Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination. Original: -We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. Dave:-We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. Original: -While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report. Dave: -We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern. Original: -We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers. Dave: -We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers. Original: -Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. Dave: -We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. Original: -We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world. Dave: -The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large. Best regards Dave From:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Aziz Hilali Sent: 08 October 2015 01:59 To: afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" [English] AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption. Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair [Français] AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique". En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015. Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption. Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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thanks Remmy ____ REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria> NDSF 2016 <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153112418861429&set=a.119216361428.104226.716351428&type=1> _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Dear Remmy
Yes, you will receive the link to Remote participation.
Best Aziz
Le Jeudi 8 octobre 2015 10h56, Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thanks Aziz Please would there be remote participation plan. Regards Remmy Nweke @ITRealms
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Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria NDSF 2016 _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@isoc-mu.org> wrote:
Dear Aziz,
Some minor changes:
Original: -We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration
Dave: -We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO.
Original: -Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities
Dave:-Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions,
most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal. formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination.
Original: -We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done
Dave:-We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.
Original: -While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report. Dave: -We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers
so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern.
Original: -We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling
Dave: -We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of
the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers. their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers.
Original: -Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable
Dave: -We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.
Original: -We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship
Dave: -The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community
since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world. participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large.
Best regards
Dave
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[English]
AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during
afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Aziz Hilali the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN
meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015.
Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of
Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.
Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair
[Français]
AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN
lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique".
En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion
conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015.
Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi
10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Dear Seun My email has been sent to the following two lists : afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.orgafricann@afrinic.net Is there any other list?Please send me the adress Le Jeudi 8 octobre 2015 10h56, Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com> a écrit : Thanks Aziz Please would there be remote participation plan. Regards Remmy Nweke @ITRealms ____REMMY NWEKE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd [Multiple-award winning medium] (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria NDSF 2016 _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@isoc-mu.org> wrote: Dear Aziz, Some minor changes: Original: - We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal. Dave: - We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO. Original: - Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. Dave:- Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination. Original: - We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.Dave:- We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines. Original: - While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report.Dave: - We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern. Original: - We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers.Dave: - We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers. Original: - Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.Dave: - We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required. Original: - We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world.Dave: - The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large. Best regards Dave From: afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Aziz Hilali Sent: 08 October 2015 01:59 To: afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" [English] AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective" You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption. Best RegardsAziz HilaliAFRALO Chair [Français] AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique". En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015. Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption. Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a...
so far, I can say that Dave's observations are consistent and provide more clarity in reading the statement. *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN* *COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member* *ISOC Member* Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512 email : b.schombe@gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr 2015-10-08 7:51 GMT+01:00 Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@isoc-mu.org>:
Dear Aziz,
Some minor changes:
*Original: -* *We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal.*
*Dave: -* We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO.
*Original: -* *Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. *
*Dave:-* Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination.
*Original: -* *We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.*
*Dave:-* We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.
*Original: -* *While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report.*
*Dave: -* We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern.
*Original: -* *We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers.*
*Dave: -* We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers.
*Original: -* *Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.*
*Dave: -* We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.
*Original: -* *We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world.*
*Dave: -* The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large.
Best regards
Dave
*From:* afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Aziz Hilali *Sent:* 08 October 2015 01:59 *To:* afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List *Subject:* [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
*[English]*
AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"
You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015.
Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.
Best Regards
Aziz Hilali
AFRALO Chair
*[Français] *
AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique".
En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015.
Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
Cordialement Aziz Hilali Président d’AFRALO
_______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Aziz Hilali -
Baudouin SCHOMBE -
Dave Kissoondoyal -
Remmy Nweke