Re: [AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL OUTING
Dear Colleagues and friends, I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning? It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all. *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON* *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK* *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC* *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC* *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK* *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO* *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO* *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change* *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters? I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Hi everyone Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating: * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. Maureen On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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-- *Dr. Abdulkarim A.Oloyede*. *B. Eng (BUK), M.Sc (York), PhD (York), R.Eng, A+* *Senior Lecturer, **Department of Telecommunications Science, University of Ilorin, Nigeria* *Vice Chairman, Telecommunications Development Advisory Group (TDAG), **International Telecommunication Union (ITU).* *Alternative Emails: olouss@yahoo.com <olouss@yahoo.com> OR aao500@york.ac.uk <aao500@york.ac.uk>*
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I would add that to the extent you can provide the actual documents of the rejection, the better able ICANN might be in attempting to address this. Alan -- Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos. On September 27, 2019 2:59:35 PM EDT, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating: * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. Maureen On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote: This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters? I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues and friends, I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning? It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all. *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON* *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK* *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC* *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC* *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK* *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO* *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO* *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change* *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* ________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF ________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Thanks Maureen for all the interventions and please do not relent as this is becoming more like a scam on global south especially after collecting their fees without opportunity to an appeal option, rather what we have is direct re-application option. We shall revert shortly with the list of those already rejected. @Alan As matter of fact the copy of the letter of rejection/refusal has been forwarded to ICANN travels but left one with no hope hence Peter's letter hinted on the issue, part of which was what Maureen listed which are largely porous given the travel history of those involved and generalising such a letter of disqualification/rejection is like stereotyping a given set of individual. ____ REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E> *2020 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>* JOIN us!! *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>) _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:22 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
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Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Dear Peters and All, It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. Best of luck and wishes to all Hadia Elminiawi On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating: * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit. It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. Maureen On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: Dear all,It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote: This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters? I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues and friends, I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS.For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning? It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.BestYours trulyThank you all.Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON -Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK -Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC -Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC -International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK -Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO -Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO -General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change -Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN -Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest_______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF_______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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+1 Hadia We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful. Maureen On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
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Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres). Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps. En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là. Voici mon petit apport. Cordialement, Etienne Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others). I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time. In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time. Here is my little contribution. Regards, Etienne Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Thank you for your letter Etienne. I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did. ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background. Thank you Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Hi Etienne More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day. Thank you for that clarification about your application. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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Thanks to you Maureen, Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK*
*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC*
*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC*
*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK*
*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO*
*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
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Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants. I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference. They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants. I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible. Looking forward to meeting you all very soon. Regards, Sarah On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Peters and All, > > It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN > attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are > passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and > existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can > help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian > officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. > > Best of luck and wishes to all > > Hadia Elminiawi > > On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < > maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone > > Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help > individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I > do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. > > Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the > names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the > reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen > some stating: > > * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your > stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the > IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of > residence.* > • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your > stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the > IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * > > It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the > information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. > > Maureen > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < > oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: > > Dear all, > It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a > way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded > applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has > previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are > being rejected. > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> > wrote: > > This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy > meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the > global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the > invite letters? > > I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < > petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues and friends, > > I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of > road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to > ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. > No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas > applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such > wanton refusalS. > For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips > abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not > leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! > That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not > remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada > to keep me away from returning? > > It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN > to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that > they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. > > It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its > just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half > of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and > efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the > responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact > that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should > not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. > I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. > Best > Yours truly > Thank you all. > > *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON* > > *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the > United Kingdom-CANUK* > > *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in > Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the > United Nations-ECOSOC* > > *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on > Climate Change-UNFCCC* > > *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable > Association-NNCA-UK* > > *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status > with the United Nations-CONGO* > > *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO* > > *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change* > > *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* > *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* > _______________________________________________ > AFRI-Discuss mailing list > AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss > > Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to > this list are more accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of > your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list > accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( > https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of > Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Yes yes Sarah it's a shame. But it's good in your sense that I was going. The other one or two makes 20%, we have to make 70%, 80% see more. Regards, Etienne Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 17:53, Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
> +1 Hadia > > We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are > very grateful. > > Maureen > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < > hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dear Peters and All, >> >> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN >> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are >> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and >> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can >> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian >> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. >> >> Best of luck and wishes to all >> >> Hadia Elminiawi >> >> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < >> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi everyone >> >> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help >> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I >> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. >> >> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the >> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the >> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen >> some stating: >> >> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of >> residence.* >> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * >> >> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the >> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. >> >> Maureen >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < >> oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find >> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded >> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has >> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are >> being rejected. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy >> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the >> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the >> invite letters? >> >> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < >> petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues and friends, >> >> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad >> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to >> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. >> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas >> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such >> wanton refusalS. >> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips >> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not >> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! >> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not >> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada >> to keep me away from returning? >> >> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN >> to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that >> they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. >> >> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its >> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half >> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and >> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the >> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact >> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should >> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. >> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. >> Best >> Yours truly >> Thank you all. >> >> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON* >> >> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the >> United Kingdom-CANUK* >> >> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in >> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the >> United Nations-ECOSOC* >> >> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on >> Climate Change-UNFCCC* >> >> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable >> Association-NNCA-UK* >> >> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status >> with the United Nations-CONGO* >> >> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO* >> >> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate >> Change* >> >> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* >> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to >> this list are more accurate: >> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >> your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( >> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >> Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC. Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html Best regards Dave Kissoondoyal On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com <mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com <mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com <mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres). Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others). I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com <mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, _based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence._ • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, _based on the purpose of your visit. _
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng <mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com <mailto:lizorembo@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com <mailto:petersomoragbon@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all. *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON * *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK * *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-/An NGO in Special /Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC * *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-/UNFCCC/ * *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK * *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO * *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO * *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change * *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN * *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss
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I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote: Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC. Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html Best regards Dave Kissoondoyal On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote: Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants. I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference. They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants. I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible. Looking forward to meeting you all very soon. Regards, Sarah On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com<mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks to you Maureen, Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit : Hi Etienne More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day. Thank you for that clarification about your application. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com<mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote: Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background. Thank you Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit : Thank you for your letter Etienne. I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did. ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com<mailto:news.tkeb@gmail.com>> wrote: Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres). Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps. En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là. Voici mon petit apport. Cordialement, Etienne Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others). I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time. In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time. Here is my little contribution. Regards, Etienne Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> a écrit : +1 Hadia We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful. Maureen On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com<mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>> wrote: Dear Peters and All, It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. Best of luck and wishes to all Hadia Elminiawi On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi everyone Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating: * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence. • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit. It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. Maureen On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng<mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote: Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com<mailto:lizorembo@gmail.com>> wrote: This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters? I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com<mailto:petersomoragbon@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Colleagues and friends, I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning? It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all. 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I cannot understand why they (governments) make it is so easy for some, and an agonizing effort for a seemingly random selection. Because they can... unfortunately. But we are getting some last minute successes which is a bright light for us. Maureen On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, 9:14 AM Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila, <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote:
Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC.
Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
Best regards
Dave Kissoondoyal
On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
> +1 Hadia > > We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are > very grateful. > > Maureen > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < > hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dear Peters and All, >> >> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN >> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are >> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and >> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can >> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian >> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. >> >> Best of luck and wishes to all >> >> Hadia Elminiawi >> >> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < >> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi everyone >> >> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help >> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I >> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. >> >> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the >> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the >> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen >> some stating: >> >> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of >> residence.* >> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * >> >> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the >> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. >> >> Maureen >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < >> oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find >> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded >> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has >> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are >> being rejected. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy >> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the >> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the >> invite letters? >> >> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < >> petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues and friends, >> >> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad >> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to >> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. >> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas >> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such >> wanton refusalS. >> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips >> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not >> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! >> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not >> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada >> to keep me away from returning? >> >> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN >> to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that >> they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. >> >> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its >> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half >> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and >> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the >> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact >> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should >> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. >> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. >> Best >> Yours truly >> Thank you all. >> >> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON * >> >> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the >> United Kingdom-CANUK * >> >> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in >> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the >> United Nations-ECOSOC * >> >> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on >> Climate Change-UNFCCC * >> >> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable >> Association-NNCA-UK * >> >> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status >> with the United Nations-CONGO * >> >> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO * >> >> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate >> Change * >> >> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN * >> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to >> this list are more accurate: >> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >> your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( >> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >> Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Cngrats *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON* *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK* *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC* *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC* *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK* *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO* *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO* *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change* *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN* *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote:
Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC.
Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
Best regards
Dave Kissoondoyal
On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
> +1 Hadia > > We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are > very grateful. > > Maureen > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < > hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dear Peters and All, >> >> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN >> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are >> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and >> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can >> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian >> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. >> >> Best of luck and wishes to all >> >> Hadia Elminiawi >> >> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < >> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi everyone >> >> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help >> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I >> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. >> >> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the >> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the >> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen >> some stating: >> >> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of >> residence.* >> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * >> >> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the >> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. >> >> Maureen >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < >> oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find >> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded >> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has >> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are >> being rejected. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy >> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the >> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the >> invite letters? >> >> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < >> petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues and friends, >> >> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad >> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to >> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. >> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas >> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such >> wanton refusalS. >> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips >> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not >> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! >> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not >> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada >> to keep me away from returning? >> >> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN >> to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that >> they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. >> >> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its >> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half >> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and >> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the >> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact >> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should >> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. >> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. >> Best >> Yours truly >> Thank you all. >> >> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON * >> >> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the >> United Kingdom-CANUK * >> >> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in >> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the >> United Nations-ECOSOC * >> >> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on >> Climate Change-UNFCCC * >> >> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable >> Association-NNCA-UK * >> >> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status >> with the United Nations-CONGO * >> >> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO * >> >> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate >> Change * >> >> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN * >> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to >> this list are more accurate: >> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >> your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( >> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >> Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the >> Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, >> including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling >> delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards. >> Liz. >> >> PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF >> _______________________________________________ >> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >> >> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to >> this list are more accurate: >> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >> your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( >> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >> Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Congratulations GALILA, Thank you! Félicitations GALILA, Cordialement, Etienne Le mar. 22 oct. 2019 à 19:34, Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com> a écrit :
Cngrats
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila < agalila@mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote:
Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English ( https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC.
Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
Best regards
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On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi < news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bonjour à tous, > Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos > parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres). > > Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le > temps. > > En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les > raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois > canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa > pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de > l'Occident à cette époque là. > > Voici mon petit apport. > > Cordialement, > > Etienne > > Good morning all, > I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your > journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others). > > I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time. > > In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of > the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration > laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got > a visa for another country of the West at that time. > > Here is my little contribution. > > Regards, > > Etienne > > Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < > maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> +1 Hadia >> >> We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are >> very grateful. >> >> Maureen >> >> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < >> hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Peters and All, >>> >>> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN >>> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are >>> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and >>> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can >>> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian >>> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. >>> >>> Best of luck and wishes to all >>> >>> Hadia Elminiawi >>> >>> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < >>> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help >>> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I >>> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. >>> >>> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the >>> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the >>> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen >>> some stating: >>> >>> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >>> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of >>> residence.* >>> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your >>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the >>> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. * >>> >>> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the >>> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < >>> oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find >>> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded >>> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has >>> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are >>> being rejected. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy >>> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the >>> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the >>> invite letters? >>> >>> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < >>> petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Colleagues and friends, >>> >>> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad >>> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to >>> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. >>> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas >>> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such >>> wanton refusalS. >>> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips >>> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not >>> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! >>> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not >>> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada >>> to keep me away from returning? >>> >>> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to >>> ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, >>> that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa >>> application. >>> >>> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its >>> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half >>> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and >>> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the >>> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact >>> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should >>> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. >>> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. >>> Best >>> Yours truly >>> Thank you all. >>> >>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON * >>> >>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the >>> United Kingdom-CANUK * >>> >>> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in >>> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the >>> United Nations-ECOSOC * >>> >>> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on >>> Climate Change-UNFCCC * >>> >>> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable >>> Association-NNCA-UK * >>> >>> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status >>> with the United Nations-CONGO * >>> >>> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO * >>> >>> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate >>> Change * >>> >>> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN >>> * >>> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AFRI-Discuss mailing list >>> AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss >>> >>> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org >>> >>> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent >>> to this list are more accurate: >>> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >>> your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >>> accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( >>> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >>> Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Dear all, I faced the same frustration few weeks back when my application has been rejected. I felt like abused, looking at the time and physical efforts I deployed moving from Cotonou in Benin to reach Accra in Ghana, crossing twice two boarders with all processes over there, plus the money I spent for application fees. But the fact is that we do not have more power than a government. I properly read the three reasons they gave in the email where they also clearly mention that it's up to me to reapply with the evidences if I think I can prove the contrary. I took my time to collect all the documents, then I replied and got the visa.I am not saying that it will work for all but we just need to follow the rules when it comes to something we cannot control. Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android Le mar., oct. 22, 2019 à 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila<agalila@mcit.gov.eg> a écrit : I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote: Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our websitehttp://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français (https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC. Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Webhttp://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html Best regards Dave Kissoondoyal On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote: Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants. I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference. They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants. I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible. Looking forward to meeting you all very soon. Regards, Sarah On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks to you Maureen, Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit : Hi Etienne More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day. Thank you for that clarification about your application. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote: Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background. Thank you Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit : Thank you for your letter Etienne. I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did. ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries. Maureen On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote: Bonjour à tous,Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres). Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps. En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là. Voici mon petit apport. Cordialement, Etienne Good morning all,I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others). I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time. In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time. Here is my little contribution. Regards, Etienne Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit : +1 Hadia We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful. Maureen On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear Peters and All, It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas. Best of luck and wishes to all Hadia Elminiawi On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa. Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating: * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR,based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR,based on the purpose of your visit. It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do. Maureen On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote: Dear all,It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote: This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters? I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues and friends, I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS.For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning? It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application. It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.BestYours trulyThank you all.Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON -Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United Kingdom-CANUK -Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-ECOSOC -Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC -International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-NNCA-UK -Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the United Nations-CONGO -Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO -General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change -Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN -Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest_______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate:http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Sound advice, Yazid. Thank you. Maureen On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:16 PM Yazid AKANHO <yakanho2@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Dear all, I faced the same frustration few weeks back when my application has been rejected. I felt like abused, looking at the time and physical efforts I deployed moving from Cotonou in Benin to reach Accra in Ghana, crossing twice two boarders with all processes over there, plus the money I spent for application fees.
But the fact is that we do not have more power than a government. I properly read the three reasons they gave in the email where they also clearly mention that it's up to me to reapply with the evidences if I think I can prove the contrary. I took my time to collect all the documents, then I replied and got the visa. I am not saying that it will work for all but we just need to follow the rules when it comes to something we cannot control.
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Le mar., oct. 22, 2019 à 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> a écrit : I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
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On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave@igf-mu.org> wrote:
Dear All, I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius. I followed all the steps following email which I received from them including submission of biometric data as well. They sent me the following: Information on the application process is available in French ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on the IRCC website. Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/ Tous les renseignements au sujet du processus de demande sont disponibles, en français ( https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le site Web d’IRCC.
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On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about visas for African participants.
I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest time possible.
Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
Regards,
Sarah
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to you Maureen,
Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
Etienne
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
Hadia Elminiawi
On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON *
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Thanks Maureen and all, Good to read from you as we gradually gather yet another set of documentations for re-application. However, I stumbled on the time for processing visa online to be 73 days for some of us, which means by December and I was wondering if its worth the troubles. Yes, ICANN will reimburse if visa is granted what happens if its not granted will one still get his/her reimbursement and one has applied for the first and second time? And that is where my original issue with the so-called rejection romance actually is, because those being rejected like other countries do, are offered option of appeal, NOT reapplication. The scene Sarah shared were actually what most of us did and included in the initial applications including bank statements, employment history, letter of introduction from employer as well as expired passports with USA visa over 10 years, etc, which leaves more questions on the modalities, I hope its not the case of 1 visa against 20 rejection? The way forward will be welcome. Anyways, below is the message. "Visitor visa (from outside Canada) Nigeria 73 days ? <https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/applicati...> You may need to give biometrics <http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/biometrics.asp> with your application. This processing time doesn’t include: - the time it takes to send an application between a VAC and our office - the time you need to give your biometrics ____ REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E> *2020 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>* JOIN us!! *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>) _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:09 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Etienne
More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the day.
Thank you for that clarification about your application.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
Thank you
Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you for your letter Etienne.
I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
Maureen
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb@gmail.com> wrote:
Bonjour à tous, Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de l'Occident à cette époque là.
Voici mon petit apport.
Cordialement,
Etienne
Good morning all, I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got a visa for another country of the West at that time.
Here is my little contribution.
Regards,
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Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 Hadia
We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very grateful.
Maureen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, < hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Peters and All,
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
Best of luck and wishes to all
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On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
* I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.* • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit. *
It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
Maureen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear all, It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being rejected.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing policy meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite letters?
I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues and friends,
I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all. No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such wanton refusalS. For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave Canada at the end of the conference!!! That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to keep me away from returning?
It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO. I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here. Best Yours truly Thank you all.
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That's why we have always asked ICANN to organize ATLAS and GA meetings in countries where the visa is guaranteed for everyone !!! Best Regards Aziz
Le 29 sept. 2019 à 10:51, Hadia El Miniawi via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
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Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila -
ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE -
Alan Greenberg -
aziz hilali -
Dave Kissoondoyal -
Etienne Tshishimbi -
Hadia El Miniawi -
Liz Orembo -
Maureen Hilyard -
Peters Omoragbon -
Remmy Nweke -
Sarah Kiden -
Yazid AKANHO