Alan,

I  applaud your efforts and tenacity of process. 

Evan,

You say "There WILL be other challenges", indeed I would expect them but remain supportive of the organisation and the efforts of the countless volunteers.


Murray McKercher

From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>
Date: Thu Sep 29 2016 12:15:52 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
To: Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch@gmail.com>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>
Cc: ICANN ALAC list <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ALAC] IANA Transition

Evan,

I don't see that one precludes the other. Yes, it is a relief that the initiative to block the transition through the budget proposal seems to have died and I am grateful. But in my mind, the real celebration is the Stewardship transition (not only to ICANN for the names function but to the numbers and protocol communities for their aspects of it).

This transition was envisioned (albeit perhaps not in the exact form it has taken) quite a number of years ago, and it appears that it will now happen. Finally. That *is* a cause for celebration in my mind.

I and others have spent a very large part of the last two years with this as the target, in many cases at large expense to ones personal and even professional life. To have seen that dissolve into completely wasted time would have been very regretful, at least to me. And yes, some of the accountability work would still bear fruit, but my statement stands.

That being said, as with every momentous occasion be it a significant life event or milestone, it is proper to look at how we got here and what we have learned. If ICANN had followed different paths (as, in some cases, both you and I advocated), ICANN would have been deemed more trustworthy and the entire Names Stewardship Transition Proposal would have been *FAR* easier. And simpler. And faster. And cheaper.

If ICANN had been as open and transparent as it should have been (in my not at all humble opinion), we might still have had some accountability work to do, but that too would have been much simpler.

Would that have eliminated that US-centric effort to "keep the Internet American" with all of its grossly inaccurate rhetoric? Not a chance! But we would have had a better defence.

So yes, we have blown a lot over the last nearly two decades. And we need to learn from that. But a bit of a party and self-congratulations for the work we did do and pleasure over the fact that the US government will be out of this aspect of Internet governance is not out of order either.

Alan

At 29/09/2016 09:14 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

As I said in the Skype chat:

This news is not cause for celebration. It is a moment to pause and reflect on a completely preventable incident that, thanks to a combination of timing, frantic activity and a good dose of pure luck, avoided rejection of years of hard work and a massive humiliation.

There WILL be other challenges. The transition brings benefits, but it also eliminates any formal state's documented commitment to ICANN's legitimacy. So long as it is not a treaty organisation its activity will be subject to ongoing scrutiny both global and local. And it is a grotesque mistake to interpret congressional bypass of Ted Cruz's crass political initiative as endorsement of ICANN.

I see no evidence that the broader support community has learned anything from this experience, meaning that it remains unprepared for future, more sophisticated attacks.

ICANN remains no less out of touch with the public it claims to serve, than it was before Ted Cruz learned about it. This incident was not only a brush with catastrophe, it was a wakeup call.

- Evan (via mobile)
On 29 Sep 2016, at 07:02, "León Felipe Sánchez Ambía" <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx> wrote:
This is great news Alan. We're witnessing history. Congratulations to all who have made it possible.

Saludos,


León

El sep. 29, 2016, a las 4:38 AM, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> escribió:

Great News!

Javier Rúa-Jovet

+1-787-396-6511
@javrua
linkedin.com/javrua

On Sep 28, 2016, at 11:48 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote:

According to reports, both the US House of Representatives and Senate have passed the Continuing Resolution funding the US government for the period starting October 1 through early December WITHOUT any rider restricting the IANA transition.

The implication is that the IANA Contract with the NTIA will lapse, the new ICANN Bylaws will be in effect and the stewardship transition will be a done-deal.

Alan

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