HI Satish,
I like your comments. As I was told anyone can subscribe to the
RALO mailing list and we have some members from other ralos on the
list. Also as for the definition of individual members. People can
only be an individual member if they are not already a member of
another ALS. Since Individual members are non-affiliated. Since we
have many ISOC chapters as being ALSES often new individual
members are members of ISOC Chapters and do not realize this when
they apply to be an individual member. I am not sure how
individual members are described in other RALOS.
So are you proposing that staff create a list of people who are
subscribed to the list and identify all and those who are not with
ALSes or are an individual member be asked if they want to join as
an individual member? I was just seeking some clarity on this
Cheers,
Judith
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A few related points:
- Given the possibility that numbers could be non-trivial compared to ALS applications, and also given that different RALOs could have criteria specific to them, should the individual member admissions be left to each RALO?
- Should we have an ALAC-level roster of all individual members so that we can detect overlaps?
- Although not directly related to membership, should we also clean up RALO-level community mailing lists and convert existing mailing list members who are neither individual members nor RALO representatives, to consider becoming individual members?
satish
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:14 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Something to file for the discussions then
To me, the individual membership should be done in a equivalent manner for Organisations applying to be Accredited as a member of the at large community- a common online application form in the 6un languages on the at large website- the ralos provide regional advice after staff due diligence is sent to the ralos for their advice- the ALAC votes whether to accept the regional advice or not
Dev Anand
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 4:29 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree that individual membership as well as ALS registration details still need to be discussed further and this was certainly going to be on my "to do" list.
But I do not think that any real changes to the ROPs can be made at this time without full consultation with everyone, especially when some RALOs are still discussing it within their own membership lists.
The issue of defining / redefining different types of membership (affiliated and unaffiliated individual members as well as of ALSes) should be incorporated into the implementation plan, under Item #2 which looks at individual participation.
Maureen
_______________________________________________On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:44 AM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
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You may be right that 1.1 needs more than a few words inserted to have it make full sense. I will look at it.
Alan
At 03/10/2018 10:29 AM, Ricardo Holmquist wrote:
Good day Alan,
Thanks so much for the revision.
I have one comment for the Introduction, where a phrase concerning the approval of the Individual members seems to be missing (Being it an RALO approval, an ALAC Approval, a Committee Approval or what the RALO establishes in its own RoP).
About the Email guide, attached is a screen capture of the At Large email list (capture email guide), there is a missing "a" on the "may de-subscribe" line. It then its repeated in the rest of the lists from there on.
Also on the Email Guide, almost at the end, in one of the corrections (capture email guide 2) it should say ALAC-Internal, and not just ALAC.
In the same guide, about all the RALO lists (and also the At Large list), there is no direct inclusion of the Individual members. I understand that for EURALO (Not sure how the other RALO works, and LACRALO is still deciding how), it works like an ALS, where a representative is named to vote on EURALO instances, but I will also understand that in any RALO if an individual is asking to be a member, is not because he wants a "virtual" ALS, but because he wants to interact directly. Yes, I am aware anyone can auto subscribe, but it is just another step in the recognition of the individual users to include him in the list once approved.
Best
Ricardo Holmquist
El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 18:46, Alan Greenberg (< alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>) escribió:
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- As I am about to relinquish the honor of being the Chair of the ALAC, I would like to leave things in reasonable order. There are a number of overdue changes needed to the Rules of Procedure (RoP) and associated documents.
- To summarize, our overall rule set includes:
- Rules of Procedure: We have a backlog of correction, clarifications and changes to address issues that have arisen or to bring the RoP in line with current practices.
- Adjunct Document 01: "Position Description for ALAC Members, Liaisons and Appointees" I expect to be considered by the ARIWG in relation to Issue 16 (Metrics)
- Adjunct Document 02: "Metrics and Remedial Actions for ALAC Members and Appointees" was never written but to the extent it is needed, it should also be considered in relation to Issue 16.
- Adjunct Document 03: "At-Large Board Member Selection Implementation" should not need any immediate attention. The Selection process was referenced in the Review (Issue 6) but our proposal that was accepted by the Board disagreed with the Review Team and said that we will not address it in the Review Implementation. We may of course re-open that discussion at any point in the future if changes is needed.
- Adjunct Document 04: "At-Large Structure Framework" will no doubt be reviewed and likely changed as part of addressing Review Issue 2 (ALS and Individual Membership).
- ALAC E-mail Guide: There are a number of corrections and changes needed to being the document in line with current ALAC practice (and reduce routine work).
- Accordingly I am proposing a set of changes to the ALAC Rules of Procedure and the ALAC E-mail Guide. The RoP call for at least 21 calendar days notice and and this message will allow us to vote on the amendments at the Wrap-Up Session in Barcelona. There will also be time allocated for discussion in Barcelona, but hopefully any need for change can be brought up and resolved via e-mail prior to travel.
- I will do a very brief overview of the changes on the ALAC call later today, and we can have a dedicated call if people wish.
- Attached is the redline revision of the RoP as well as a Change Log explaining each of the changes.
- Also attached is the redline E-mail Guide. All of the changes are either clear corrections or changes to reflect current practice (such as including the any ALT Advisor in the ALT or ALAC lists, and including key working group chairs in the ALAC list).
- Alan
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