Re: [ALAC] [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted.
Tijani, I am trying my best to reflect a fair statement. My preference would be to make a strong statement that reflects the majority views, but people have felt strongly that all variants need to be presented and I have done what I could to have the statement represent all of those views. Please suggest wording that will satisfy you, but it cannot be to simply remove the parts you do not agree with. That removes what others feel is appropriate. We only have 3 hours before the comment period closes. Alan At 03/06/2015 03:50 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
Thank you Alan,
As you said the discussion was more between you, Seun and myself, and you recognized that no feedback from the rest of our members. You also recognized that Seun mostly had similar position than me. In short, we had 2 similar opinions and another different opinion.
But unfortunately, you didnt consider any of my remarks in your last version in which you say: The ALAC believe , the ALAC consider .etc. I think that parts of the statement dont represent the opinion of ALAC. For the CWG statement, you tried to find the middle ground, in this one, you expressed your point of view. Im sorry for that.
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De : Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 15:55 À : tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn; 'ALAC'; 'IANA Issues' Objet : RE: [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted.
There were two problems. That document should not have been attached. I pointed to the wiki in the e-mail. The document was from an earlier e-mail that I neglected to remove. And the 21 May date was in error, even the first time (although no one noticed).
Alan
At 03/06/2015 04:24 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
Alan,
Are you sure the attached version is the last one; it was marked 21 May.
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-----Message d'origine----- De : iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan Greenberg Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 06:40 À : ALAC; IANA Issues Objet : [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted. Importance : Haute
A revised version of the Comment has been posted incorporating the issues raised in the last day. See <https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw>https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw.
At this point, we are having very few comments made, and those that are largely a debate between Tijani and me (with comments from Seun largely supporting Tijani).
We REALLY need more people to contribute. A statement like this needs to reflect the overall community and not just the views of a few people.
Alan
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Alan, My points are very clear, and the minimum that should be done is to reflect both points of view, not saying the majority believe . There are 2 positions, so lets put them together (some think . Others believe .). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- De : Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 22:12 À : tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn; 'ALAC'; 'IANA Issues' Objet : RE: [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted. Importance : Haute Tijani, I am trying my best to reflect a fair statement. My preference would be to make a strong statement that reflects the majority views, but people have felt strongly that all variants need to be presented and I have done what I could to have the statement represent all of those views. Please suggest wording that will satisfy you, but it cannot be to simply remove the parts you do not agree with. That removes what others feel is appropriate. We only have 3 hours before the comment period closes. Alan At 03/06/2015 03:50 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote: Thank you Alan, As you said the discussion was more between you, Seun and myself, and you recognized that no feedback from the rest of our members. You also recognized that Seun mostly had similar position than me. In short, we had 2 similar opinions and another different opinion. But unfortunately, you didnt consider any of my remarks in your last version in which you say: The ALAC believe , the ALAC consider .etc. I think that parts of the statement dont represent the opinion of ALAC. For the CWG statement, you tried to find the middle ground, in this one, you expressed your point of view. Im sorry for that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- De : Alan Greenberg [ <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 15:55 À : tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn; 'ALAC'; 'IANA Issues' Objet : RE: [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted. There were two problems. That document should not have been attached. I pointed to the wiki in the e-mail. The document was from an earlier e-mail that I neglected to remove. And the 21 May date was in error, even the first time (although no one noticed). Alan At 03/06/2015 04:24 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote: Alan, Are you sure the attached version is the last one; it was marked 21 May. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Message d'origine----- De : iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:iana-issues-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan Greenberg Envoyé : mercredi 3 juin 2015 06:40 À : ALAC; IANA Issues Objet : [IANA-issues] CCWG-Accountability REVISED Draft Comment Posted. Importance : Haute A revised version of the Comment has been posted incorporating the issues raised in the last day. See https://community.icann.org/x/koU0Aw. At this point, we are having very few comments made, and those that are largely a debate between Tijani and me (with comments from Seun largely supporting Tijani). We REALLY need more people to contribute. A statement like this needs to reflect the overall community and not just the views of a few people. Alan _____ Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> est active. _____ Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> avast! est active. --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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