Proposed statement of the ALAC regarding the current situation in Egypt
Dear all, sustained discussions have recently taken place on one of the RALO lists, whether the ALAC should comment on the current political situation in Egypt, focussing in particular on the suspension of Internet service in the country. I have personally monitored the discussion and members of the ALAC ExCom have held daily discussions about the matter. I have also discussed the possibility of a statement with other constituency Chairs and some Board members. Rod Beckstrom has published a Blog post on: http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt/ He has steered away from making any kind of political statement, and I suspect that this was for a reason. Egypt's GAC representative is Ms. Manal Ismail. She works for the Telecom Regulation Authority (TRA) - but their Internet is cut too. The ccNSO representative is EGregistry.eg - and they are cut from the Internet as well. The ICANN manager for relations in the Middle East, Mr. Baher Esmat, is also based in Cairo - and he's also off-line. Many more participants in ICANN Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees, including ICANN fellows are also based in Egypt. I have managed to speak to a couple of my own friends in Cairo. They explained that, like all Egyptians, they are worried about the security situation, their own personal security included. This is particularly important. Whilst I understand that the current action by Egypt breaks ICANN's Core Value #1, it is my firm view that any statement might bring more harm that good to ICANN and its friends at the present moment, if it is not crafted with caution. This is a complex political situation which surpasses ICANN's sphere of influence, and I should seriously recommend that ALAC keeps a low profile about this because of the political implications for our friends on the ground. That said, the Internet Society has released a Q&A document focussing primarily on the technical implications of the shut-down of Internet services in Egypt. It is very useful, and I propose that for the time being, we support this Q&A and point our members to it. I am therefore asking the ALAC to endorse the following statement in an accelerated vote and procedure: --- cut here --- Statement of the ALAC regarding current situation in Egypt The ALAC is concerned by the impact of developments in Egypt on the ordinary Internet user. In the light of ICANN's responsibility for IP address and AS number policy, and its core value of 'preserving and enhancing the operational stability, reliability, security, and global interoperability of the Internet', we endorse the ISOC statement and Q&A as expressed at http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3100 Signed: The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) --- cut here --- I hope that this will receive support and in this case, Heidi will swiftly follow-up with regards to voting procedures. In the meantime, and until the situation on the ground gets resolved, we wish all the Best to our Egyptian friends in this time of troubled politics in their country. Best regards, Olivier Crepin-Leblond ALAC Chair
Dear all, I entirely agree with Olivier's reflections on a statement like this and to limit it to something "crafted with caution" and focusing on "technical aspects" like the draft proposal -- what I support. For the rest regarding the current situation in Egypt and HR aspects like FoE, freedom of assembly etc., I think, it's the role of the Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles (IRP) and others to pronounce themselves on broader aspects. As I could follow on the IRP list today, they will disseminate a statement today as well. Best, Wolf Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:21:
Dear all,
sustained discussions have recently taken place on one of the RALO lists, whether the ALAC should comment on the current political situation in Egypt, focussing in particular on the suspension of Internet service in the country. I have personally monitored the discussion and members of the ALAC ExCom have held daily discussions about the matter. I have also discussed the possibility of a statement with other constituency Chairs and some Board members. Rod Beckstrom has published a Blog post on: http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt/ He has steered away from making any kind of political statement, and I suspect that this was for a reason.
Egypt's GAC representative is Ms. Manal Ismail. She works for the Telecom Regulation Authority (TRA) - but their Internet is cut too. The ccNSO representative is EGregistry.eg - and they are cut from the Internet as well. The ICANN manager for relations in the Middle East, Mr. Baher Esmat, is also based in Cairo - and he's also off-line. Many more participants in ICANN Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees, including ICANN fellows are also based in Egypt.
I have managed to speak to a couple of my own friends in Cairo. They explained that, like all Egyptians, they are worried about the security situation, their own personal security included. This is particularly important.
Whilst I understand that the current action by Egypt breaks ICANN's Core Value #1, it is my firm view that any statement might bring more harm that good to ICANN and its friends at the present moment, if it is not crafted with caution. This is a complex political situation which surpasses ICANN's sphere of influence, and I should seriously recommend that ALAC keeps a low profile about this because of the political implications for our friends on the ground.
That said, the Internet Society has released a Q&A document focussing primarily on the technical implications of the shut-down of Internet services in Egypt. It is very useful, and I propose that for the time being, we support this Q&A and point our members to it.
I am therefore asking the ALAC to endorse the following statement in an accelerated vote and procedure:
--- cut here ---
Statement of the ALAC regarding current situation in Egypt
The ALAC is concerned by the impact of developments in Egypt on the ordinary Internet user. In the light of ICANN's responsibility for IP address and AS number policy, and its core value of 'preserving and enhancing the operational stability, reliability, security, and global interoperability of the Internet', we endorse the ISOC statement and Q&A as expressed at http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3100
Signed: The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)
--- cut here ---
I hope that this will receive support and in this case, Heidi will swiftly follow-up with regards to voting procedures.
In the meantime, and until the situation on the ground gets resolved, we wish all the Best to our Egyptian friends in this time of troubled politics in their country.
Best regards,
Olivier Crepin-Leblond ALAC Chair
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
+1 On 1 February 2011 11:43, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> wrote:
Dear all,
I entirely agree with Olivier's reflections on a statement like this and to limit it to something "crafted with caution" and focusing on "technical aspects" like the draft proposal -- what I support.
For the rest regarding the current situation in Egypt and HR aspects like FoE, freedom of assembly etc., I think, it's the role of the Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles (IRP) and others to pronounce themselves on broader aspects. As I could follow on the IRP list today, they will disseminate a statement today as well.
Best, Wolf
-- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56
+1 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
+1
On 1 February 2011 11:43, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> wrote:
Dear all,
I entirely agree with Olivier's reflections on a statement like this and to limit it to something "crafted with caution" and focusing on "technical aspects" like the draft proposal -- what I support.
For the rest regarding the current situation in Egypt and HR aspects like FoE, freedom of assembly etc., I think, it's the role of the Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles (IRP) and others to pronounce themselves on broader aspects. As I could follow on the IRP list today, they will disseminate a statement today as well.
Best, Wolf
-- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56
ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
Dear Olivier, - the reasons for keeping a low profile are understandable. And as fiduciary responsibility in ICANN rests with its Board, it is appropriate that the CEO make a statement, as he has done. Don't expect a line from the Board. - The ISOC approach is efficient: by giving an in-depth analysis of the situation, by clarifying its ramifications and consequences, it allows the reader to understand that the blame for the Internet shutdown rests with public authority in Egypt. I therefore agree with your suggestion that we support the ISOC statement. - Let me express a different (and no doubt minority) view: as ALAC represents not the corporation, but the users worldwide, it can voice the concerns of that global community. We are also not the GAC, where consensus is required for the change of even a comma. The ICANN Bylaws simply state " The role of the At-Large Advisory Committee ("ALAC") shall be to consider and provide advice on the activities of ICANN, insofar as they relate to the interests of individual Internet users". So, if stronger language were required/warranted, ALAC could, IMO, at least express "deep concern". After all, the closure of the Internet in Egypt is the consequence not of a technical problem, but of a clear political decision taken after the changes brought about in Tunisia, not least thanks to the global infrastructure of the Internet. My suggestion if for you, as ALAC Chair, to seek the opinion of the affected geographic RALO, and unless there is an objection from that quarter, we could then issue a statement - quoting the part of our Bylaws reflecting "the interests of individual internet users"; - expressing the deep concern of the ALAC, as the entity representing individual users, that the closing down of the Internet by public authority in Egypt has deprived the vast majority of its population of an essential infrastructure; - point at the ISOC statement, and support it. - As mentioned above, if your draft has the preference of our colleagues, I will support it. Just a small drafting suggestion: delete "ordinary", as the expression "the Internet user" is inclusive. Regards, Jean-Jacques. Le 1 févr. 2011 à 15:21, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
Dear all,
sustained discussions have recently taken place on one of the RALO lists, whether the ALAC should comment on the current political situation in Egypt, focussing in particular on the suspension of Internet service in the country. I have personally monitored the discussion and members of the ALAC ExCom have held daily discussions about the matter. I have also discussed the possibility of a statement with other constituency Chairs and some Board members. Rod Beckstrom has published a Blog post on: http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt/ He has steered away from making any kind of political statement, and I suspect that this was for a reason.
Egypt's GAC representative is Ms. Manal Ismail. She works for the Telecom Regulation Authority (TRA) - but their Internet is cut too. The ccNSO representative is EGregistry.eg - and they are cut from the Internet as well. The ICANN manager for relations in the Middle East, Mr. Baher Esmat, is also based in Cairo - and he's also off-line. Many more participants in ICANN Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees, including ICANN fellows are also based in Egypt.
I have managed to speak to a couple of my own friends in Cairo. They explained that, like all Egyptians, they are worried about the security situation, their own personal security included. This is particularly important.
Whilst I understand that the current action by Egypt breaks ICANN's Core Value #1, it is my firm view that any statement might bring more harm that good to ICANN and its friends at the present moment, if it is not crafted with caution. This is a complex political situation which surpasses ICANN's sphere of influence, and I should seriously recommend that ALAC keeps a low profile about this because of the political implications for our friends on the ground.
That said, the Internet Society has released a Q&A document focussing primarily on the technical implications of the shut-down of Internet services in Egypt. It is very useful, and I propose that for the time being, we support this Q&A and point our members to it.
I am therefore asking the ALAC to endorse the following statement in an accelerated vote and procedure:
--- cut here ---
Statement of the ALAC regarding current situation in Egypt
The ALAC is concerned by the impact of developments in Egypt on the ordinary Internet user. In the light of ICANN's responsibility for IP address and AS number policy, and its core value of 'preserving and enhancing the operational stability, reliability, security, and global interoperability of the Internet', we endorse the ISOC statement and Q&A as expressed at http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3100
Signed: The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)
--- cut here ---
I hope that this will receive support and in this case, Heidi will swiftly follow-up with regards to voting procedures.
In the meantime, and until the situation on the ground gets resolved, we wish all the Best to our Egyptian friends in this time of troubled politics in their country.
Best regards,
Olivier Crepin-Leblond ALAC Chair
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
participants (5)
-
Evan Leibovitch -
James Seng -
Jean-Jacques Subrenat -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Wolf Ludwig