Accountability - Changes
ALAC, Have a look at this. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en Best regards, Rinalia
Thank you Rinalia. Worth noting, SO,AC and SG Chairs have had a call with ICANN Staff Leadership today and the only topic of the call was the process described here. It appears that the new revised structure still does not satisfy significant portions of the GNSO. As soon as the transcript is published, I'll forward its details to the ALAC. Kindest regards, Olivier On 15/08/2014 02:07, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en
Best regards,
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I have two questions which perhaps either Rinalia or Olivier can answer. If not, who should they be sent to? 1. The infographic says that the CG members are selected by the constituencies (presumably the AC/SOs). The CCG circle says it appoints participants to the CG. Does that mean that the CCG rubber-stamps the selections of the AC/SOs. Or is there some other subtlety that I am missing. First I thought that it could appoint OTHERS in addition to the AC/SO reps, but the text says the CG count is fixed. 2. Who selects the ATRT person on the CG? Alan At 14/08/2014 08:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Thank you Rinalia. Worth noting, SO,AC and SG Chairs have had a call with ICANN Staff Leadership today and the only topic of the call was the process described here. It appears that the new revised structure still does not satisfy significant portions of the GNSO. As soon as the transcript is published, I'll forward its details to the ALAC.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 15/08/2014 02:07, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en
Best regards,
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Alan, I suggest the ALAC gathers its questions and direct them to Theresa Swineheart. Best regards, Rinalia On Aug 15, 2014 8:35 AM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
I have two questions which perhaps either Rinalia or Olivier can answer. If not, who should they be sent to?
1. The infographic says that the CG members are selected by the constituencies (presumably the AC/SOs). The CCG circle says it appoints participants to the CG. Does that mean that the CCG rubber-stamps the selections of the AC/SOs. Or is there some other subtlety that I am missing. First I thought that it could appoint OTHERS in addition to the AC/SO reps, but the text says the CG count is fixed.
2. Who selects the ATRT person on the CG?
Alan
At 14/08/2014 08:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Thank you Rinalia. Worth noting, SO,AC and SG Chairs have had a call with ICANN Staff Leadership today and the only topic of the call was the process described here. It appears that the new revised structure still does not satisfy significant portions of the GNSO. As soon as the transcript is published, I'll forward its details to the ALAC.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 15/08/2014 02:07, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en
Best regards,
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Hello all, a follow-up. Things have been going rather slowly on the ICANN accountability front. The Cross Community Working Group on ICANN Accountability is still not formed. There was an initial proposal that there be 7 people from At-Large to be selected to be on the cross community working group. Now the next steps have been published: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en With an info-graphic showing: https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/assets/process-infographic-14aug14... As a result, the Cross "Community Working Group on ICANN Accountability & Governance" could be filled with as many people as we wish it to be, or as many as the charter will allow - and so far the proposal is that the Board writes the CCWG's Charter. There will also need to be a selection of 1 participant from each ICANN SO & AC & SG. - so our already formed Selection Committee are definitely going to need to make a selection of at least 1 person to go on the "ICANN Accountability & Governance Coordination Group". But please wait until a call for candidates is sent out. We cannot just collect names of applicants if we don't know what those applicants are going to apply for! I have heard some feedback from many sources in the past few days. Some consider this structure to be too complex. Some are concerned that this proposal was made, with no possibility of community feedback. So this might not be the last version of the system that will be put in place. It certainly appears to be a laborious process to get the ball rolling on this. Kindest regards, Olivier On 15/08/2014 02:20, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Thank you Rinalia. Worth noting, SO,AC and SG Chairs have had a call with ICANN Staff Leadership today and the only topic of the call was the process described here. It appears that the new revised structure still does not satisfy significant portions of the GNSO. As soon as the transcript is published, I'll forward its details to the ALAC.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 15/08/2014 02:07, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en
Best regards,
Rinalia _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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Olivier, Yes, it is too complicated. I see that we are going towards an identical structure of the transition of IANA functions stewardship and the ICANN accountability and Governance: a coordination group and a cross community working group. With the experience we have now from our participation in the IANA function stewardship transition coordination group, we need to be careful and vigilant not to have groups unbalanced geographically and membership. Also, we have to be clear from the beginning that we cant accept any capture. Also, why the Board wants to draft the charter of the accountability CWG??? Are they not happy with the one drafted for the CWG on IANA transition by a community drafting team (Julie, Léon and myself are members)???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Message d'origine----- De : alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Envoyé : vendredi 15 août 2014 23:51 À : alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Objet : Re: [ALAC] Accountability - Changes Hello all, a follow-up. Things have been going rather slowly on the ICANN accountability front. The Cross Community Working Group on ICANN Accountability is still not formed. There was an initial proposal that there be 7 people from At-Large to be selected to be on the cross community working group. Now the next steps have been published: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en With an info-graphic showing: https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/assets/process-infographic-14aug14 -en.pdf As a result, the Cross "Community Working Group on ICANN Accountability & Governance" could be filled with as many people as we wish it to be, or as many as the charter will allow - and so far the proposal is that the Board writes the CCWG's Charter. There will also need to be a selection of 1 participant from each ICANN SO & AC & SG. - so our already formed Selection Committee are definitely going to need to make a selection of at least 1 person to go on the "ICANN Accountability & Governance Coordination Group". But please wait until a call for candidates is sent out. We cannot just collect names of applicants if we don't know what those applicants are going to apply for! I have heard some feedback from many sources in the past few days. Some consider this structure to be too complex. Some are concerned that this proposal was made, with no possibility of community feedback. So this might not be the last version of the system that will be put in place. It certainly appears to be a laborious process to get the ball rolling on this. Kindest regards, Olivier On 15/08/2014 02:20, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Thank you Rinalia.
Worth noting, SO,AC and SG Chairs have had a call with ICANN Staff
Leadership today and the only topic of the call was the process
described here.
It appears that the new revised structure still does not satisfy
significant portions of the GNSO.
As soon as the transcript is published, I'll forward its details to the
ALAC.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 15/08/2014 02:07, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
Best regards,
Rinalia
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Rinalia You’re a gem It will go on the wiki page Holly On 15 Aug 2014, at 10:07 am, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
ALAC,
Have a look at this.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-14-en
Best regards,
Rinalia _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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