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It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation. We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA. Alan
Makes good sense to me Alan... I hope the ALAC agrees and promptly endorses/adopts this amendment... *Cheryl Langdon-Orr ... **(CLO)* http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On 13 November 2013 09:49, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as
an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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Dear Alan, thank you for proposing a potential solution. Everyone - please be so kind to indicate support or make alternative proposals. Many thanks, Olivier On 12/11/2013 19:49, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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Good with me. On 2013-11-12 10:57 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Alan,
thank you for proposing a potential solution. Everyone - please be so kind to indicate support or make alternative proposals. Many thanks,
Olivier
On 12/11/2013 19:49, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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I support Alan's proposal. Dev Anand On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Good with me. On 2013-11-12 10:57 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Alan,
thank you for proposing a potential solution. Everyone - please be so kind to indicate support or make alternative proposals. Many thanks,
Olivier
On 12/11/2013 19:49, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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I support the proposal. On Nov 13, 2013 11:56 AM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Alan,
thank you for proposing a potential solution. Everyone - please be so kind to indicate support or make alternative proposals. Many thanks,
Olivier
On 12/11/2013 19:49, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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+1 -ed On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>wrote:
Dear Alan,
thank you for proposing a potential solution. Everyone - please be so kind to indicate support or make alternative proposals. Many thanks,
Olivier
On 12/11/2013 19:49, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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Hi Everyone As the person in question, I think Alan's proposal makes very good sense and am happy to endorse it. Holly On 13/11/2013, at 9:49 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
It appears that we have an issue that was not thought about when the new ALAC RoP were contemplated. Specifically, we have a person who will be both a RALO Chair and an ALAC member (for APRALO), thus holding two votes in the Board member election. From my point of view, this is not a great situation.
We can either leave things as they are, or approve an additional rule allowing the Chair vote to be cast by someone else. That is similar to rules we already have for potential voters who cannot vote due a conflict. Since the RoP are silent on this issue, the under RoP 10.1.3, the ALAC is empowered to approve an additional rule without formally modifying the RoP. I would suggest the following. The second sentence also covers another case we forgot, specifically if an ALAC member is sick or otherwise unavailable to participate.
If A RALO Chair is not currently filled, or unavailable to participate as an elector, or should the RALO Chair also hold a vote as an ALAC member, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules. If an ALAC member is unavailable to participate as an elector, the RALO for his/her region will name a replacement for the purposes of the vote. This replacement must be approved by vote of the RALO according to its rules.
If we want to make such a change, it should really be done in BA.
Alan
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participants (9)
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Alan Greenberg -
Carlton Samuels -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Eduardo Diaz -
Evan Leibovitch -
Holly Raiche -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Rinalia Abdul Rahim