Re: [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLD
I have a question related to the number of ccTLDs: For a country with more than one script, shouldn't it be allowed at least one country name for each script? The issue here is the international recognition of those scripts (I don't know if there is any), but I could see in India and China different kind of script in advertizes, traffic orientation , stores etc. nay idea how to deal with this in a formal way? I agree that country which have sold its cc for any reason, can not be allowed to have a IDN cc for such name. Vanda Scartezini NEXTi_v1.jpg tel: + 55 11 3266.6253 mob:+ 55 11 8181.1464 -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sébastien Bachollet Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:37 AM To: 'James Seng'; 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLD Hello James, Thanks for starting this discussion with your draft paper. I would like to comment on one issue: 2) Additional to Topic 2: Should the IDN ccTLD string be related to the territory name? Rationale: ccTLD should be use related to country code. For example, and no offense intended by the example, .tv should not have IDN .Television via IDN PDP process. A/ Your example is a very good one if you write television in another script like French "télévision" or Chinese (from Google - unfortunately I don't know Chinese) "电视" B/ Anyway I guess we want to say here via ccNSO IDN PDP process. Because .tv registry can apply for .television using the gTLD (future) process. All the best Sébastien Bachollet Président d'honneur - Isoc France sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr
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De : alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-
lists.icann.org] De la part de James Seng
Envoyé : mercredi 25 novembre 2009 14:39
À : At-Large Worldwide
Objet : [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the
Introduction of IDN ccTLD
As IDN Liaison on the behalf of ALAC, I was asked to prepare an ALAC
statement to the ccNSO IDN PDP WG1 Public Comments Requested on Draft
Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLDs.
http://ccnso.icann.org/announcements/announcement-20oct09.htm
Attached is the first cut of the statement I have drafted.
I welcome any inputs or comments.
-James Seng
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Dear Sebastien & Vanda, Thanks for your feedback. I agree that, for example dotTV, should have IDN version of Television under gTLD process and not via IDN ccTLD PDP. As for Vanda question of scripts, I think currently the wordings is "script/language" which is vague. Perhaps we can add the following question: "Should IDN ccTLD be assigned per language, per script or should it be per language or script?" -James Seng On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Vanda UOL <vanda@uol.com.br> wrote:
I have a question related to the number of ccTLDs: For a country with more than one script, shouldn't it be allowed at least one country name for each script?
The issue here is the international recognition of those scripts (I don't know if there is any), but I could see in India and China different kind of script in advertizes, traffic orientation , stores etc. nay idea how to deal with this in a formal way?
I agree that country which have sold its cc for any reason, can not be allowed to have a IDN cc for such name.
*Vanda Scartezini*
[image: NEXTi_v1.jpg]
*tel: + 55 11 3266.6253*
*mob:+ 55 11 8181.1464*
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sébastien Bachollet Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:37 AM To: 'James Seng'; 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLD
Hello James,
Thanks for starting this discussion with your draft paper.
I would like to comment on one issue:
2) Additional to Topic 2: Should the IDN ccTLD string be related to the territory name?
Rationale: ccTLD should be use related to country code. For example, and no offense intended by the example, .tv should not have IDN .Television via IDN PDP process.
A/ Your example is a very good one if you write television in another script like French "télévision" or Chinese (from Google - unfortunately I don't know Chinese) "电视"
B/ Anyway I guess we want to say here via ccNSO IDN PDP process.
Because .tv registry can apply for .television using the gTLD (future) process.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet
Président d'honneur - Isoc France
sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr
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De : alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-
lists.icann.org] De la part de James Seng
Envoyé : mercredi 25 novembre 2009 14:39
À : At-Large Worldwide
Objet : [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the
Introduction of IDN ccTLD
As IDN Liaison on the behalf of ALAC, I was asked to prepare an ALAC
statement to the ccNSO IDN PDP WG1 Public Comments Requested on Draft
Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLDs.
http://ccnso.icann.org/announcements/announcement-20oct09.htm
Attached is the first cut of the statement I have drafted.
I welcome any inputs or comments.
-James Seng
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Dear all, We have our single topic conference call 2 hours ago. As it is a short notice, we have only Sebastien and myself on the call, and Xue Hong left a note on the wiki. In anycase, Sebastien and myself went through the draft statement and made another revision of the document. https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?alac_statement_on_draft_topic_pape... The attached is the clean version of wiki. As we are running close to the deadline (5th Dec), I would advise any members who has further comments please do so within the next 24 hours. Thank you. -James Seng
Thanks for this James... I trust you received my apologies for the meeting... I have made my comments to the Wiki thank you... CLO James Seng wrote:
Dear all,
We have our single topic conference call 2 hours ago. As it is a short notice, we have only Sebastien and myself on the call, and Xue Hong left a note on the wiki.
In anycase, Sebastien and myself went through the draft statement and made another revision of the document.
https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?alac_statement_on_draft_topic_pape...
The attached is the clean version of wiki.
As we are running close to the deadline (5th Dec), I would advise any members who has further comments please do so within the next 24 hours.
Thank you.
-James Seng
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Well done James. Thanks. Sébastien Bachollet Président d'honneur - Isoc France <mailto:sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr> sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr <http://www.egeni.org/> www.egeni.org <http://www.isoc.fr/> www.isoc.fr De : james.seng@gmail.com [mailto:james.seng@gmail.com] De la part de James Seng Envoyé : jeudi 3 décembre 2009 18:04 À : Vanda UOL Cc : sebastien.bachollet; At-Large Worldwide Objet : Re: [ALAC] ALAC Statement on Draft Topic Paper for Policy on the Introduction of IDN ccTLD Dear all, We have our single topic conference call 2 hours ago. As it is a short notice, we have only Sebastien and myself on the call, and Xue Hong left a note on the wiki. In anycase, Sebastien and myself went through the draft statement and made another revision of the document. https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?alac_statement_on_draft_topic_pape... The attached is the clean version of wiki. As we are running close to the deadline (5th Dec), I would advise any members who has further comments please do so within the next 24 hours. Thank you. -James Seng
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