There are four ALS decertifications that have been pending for quite some time. The motion to formalize the decertifications is below. The decertifications will be carried out in a single vote unless there is a request for any of them to be done individually (allowing a different vote from the rest). Decertifications are normally carried out with a open vote, but a non-public ballot may be used if requested by any ALAC Member. If a non-public ballot is used, how ALAC Members vote is not publicly displayed but is still visible to the Chair and staff to allow a rationale to be determined for the decertification in the case of an appeal. Request to split the vote or use a non-public vote may be made on this list or privately to me and staff. Any such requests must be received no later than 23:59 UTC on Friday 11 August 2017. The vote or votes will begin soon thereafter. Alan
Whereas the ALAC Rules of Procedures and the associated Adjunct Document 04 At-Large Structure Framework allows the ALAC to decertify an At-Large Structure (ALS);
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ISOC+Luxembourg+A.S.B.L.+%28EURALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ISOC+Luxembourg+A.S.B.L.+%28EURALO%29+Decertification+Workspace, ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L. either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64072319>https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64072319, Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/N-CAP+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/N-CAP+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace, N-CAP either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules; the ALS has also informed the ALAC that it no longer desires to be an ALS;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Association+for+Community+Networking+%28AFCN%29+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Association+for+Community+Networking+%28AFCN%29+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace, Association for Community Networking (AFCN) either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
It is resolved that the ALAC decertifies the following organizations as ICANN At-Large Structures: ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L., Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático, N-CAP, and Association for Community Networking (AFCN).
Such decertification is subject ICANN Board Reconsideration as per Article IV, Section 2 of the ICANN Bylaws and is done without prejudice to any future re-application of this organization for certification as an ALS, or the application for ALS certification of any other group bearing the same name.
I still don't see the rush, the motivation to expunge. By all means, maintain active/inactive status for ALSs (for the purposes of travel eligibility, quorums, etc). But being slow in the purge process is a Very Good Thing (if it must be done at all). What is the damage done by maintaining an inactive-but-not-purged list? (Except, of course, for those who choose and request to be removed)? One may reasonably conclude that with no resource burden to maintain a list of inactive ALSs, the primary reason to purge is to minimize the embarrassment of their presence (that is, of ALSs that were lured to join but once here, found it was not what they were told it would be, or were otherwise unmotivated to participate). I will continue to maintain that the effort expended to engage ALSs (in policy and advice development) must be at least as much as the outreach expended to get them to join. Facilitating a diversity of voices is pointless if they don't have anything substantive to say once here. - Evan
Hi Judith, Sorry I didn't reply. I had missed this message until Ariel pointed it out to me today. Since the motion is already formulated (and the vote is to begin today), let's leave it to the next batch, but not delay in getting them going. For the record, my reply would have been the same (other than the reference to "today") if I had replied immediately. Alan At 08/08/2017 11:06 AM, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
Alan,
Is it too late to add one additional ALS to this list? America@Large has been on non-active status for one year. Its one year period ends on August 12, 2017 and this is documented on the ALS decertification page. <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/America@Large+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/America@Large+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace
Is it possible to add this to the list or should we wait until the next time. In NARALO we have 2 more ALSes, Open Media and VIBUG which after August 24 and September 7 respectively will have exceeded their one year waiting period and are set for decertification. These are also well documented by staff and are on the decertification page <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Structure+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Structure+Decertification+Workspace
What is the procedure for these ALSes.
Thank you
Judith Hellerstein
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On 8/8/2017 10:34 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
There are four ALS decertifications that have been pending for quite some time.
The motion to formalize the decertifications is below.
The decertifications will be carried out in a single vote unless there is a request for any of them to be done individually (allowing a different vote from the rest). Decertifications are normally carried out with a open vote, but a non-public ballot may be used if requested by any ALAC Member. If a non-public ballot is used, how ALAC Members vote is not publicly displayed but is still visible to the Chair and staff to allow a rationale to be determined for the decertification in the case of an appeal.
Request to split the vote or use a non-public vote may be made on this list or privately to me and staff. Any such requests must be received no later than 23:59 UTC on Friday 11 August 2017. The vote or votes will begin soon thereafter.
Alan
Whereas the ALAC Rules of Procedures and the associated Adjunct Document 04 At-Large Structure Framework allows the ALAC to decertify an At-Large Structure (ALS);
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ISOC+Luxembourg+A.S.B.L.+%28EURALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ISOC+Luxembourg+A.S.B.L.+%28EURALO%29+Decertification+Workspace , ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L. either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64072319>https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64072319, Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/N-CAP+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/N-CAP+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace , N-CAP either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules; the ALS has also informed the ALAC that it no longer desires to be an ALS;
Whereas, as documented at <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Association+for+Community+Networking+%28AFCN%29+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Association+for+Community+Networking+%28AFCN%29+%28NARALO%29+Decertification+Workspace , Association for Community Networking (AFCN) either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALOâs rules;
It is resolved that the ALAC decertifies the following organizations as ICANN At-Large Structures: ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L., Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático, N-CAP, and Association for Community Networking (AFCN).
Such decertification is subject ICANN Board Reconsideration as per Article IV, Section 2 of the ICANN Bylaws and is done without prejudice to any future re-application of this organization for certification as an ALS, or the application for ALS certification of any other group bearing the same name.
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I agree with this course of action. Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
There are four ALS decertifications that have been pending for quite some time.
The motion to formalize the decertifications is below.
The decertifications will be carried out in a single vote unless there is a request for any of them to be done individually (allowing a different vote from the rest). Decertifications are normally carried out with a open vote, but a non-public ballot may be used if requested by any ALAC Member. If a non-public ballot is used, how ALAC Members vote is not publicly displayed but is still visible to the Chair and staff to allow a rationale to be determined for the decertification in the case of an appeal.
Request to split the vote or use a non-public vote may be made on this list or privately to me and staff. Any such requests must be received no later than 23:59 UTC on Friday 11 August 2017. The vote or votes will begin soon thereafter.
Alan
Whereas the ALAC Rules of Procedures and the associated Adjunct Document 04 – At-Large Structure Framework allows the ALAC to decertify an At-Large Structure (ALS);
Whereas, as documented at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ISOC+Luxembourg+A.S.B.L.+%28EURA... , ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L. either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALO’s rules;
Whereas, as documented at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64072319, Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALO’s rules;
Whereas, as documented at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/N-CAP+%28NARALO%29+Decertificati... , N-CAP either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALO’s rules; the ALS has also informed the ALAC that it no longer desires to be an ALS;
Whereas, as documented at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Association+for+Community+Networ... , Association for Community Networking (AFCN) either no longer exists or no longer satisfies the requirements to be an ALS as identified in the At-Large Structure Framework, and/or the ALS requirements as outlined in the RALO’s rules;
It is resolved that the ALAC decertifies the following organizations as ICANN At-Large Structures: ISOC Luxembourg A.S.B.L., Asociación Costarricense de Derecho Informático, N-CAP, and Association for Community Networking (AFCN).
Such decertification is subject ICANN Board Reconsideration as per Article IV, Section 2 of the ICANN Bylaws and is done without prejudice to any future re-application of this organization for certification as an ALS, or the application for ALS certification of any other group bearing the same name.
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