Re: [ALAC] Compliance complaint
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name." On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this. The domain is due to expire on 24 April. So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live. To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action. The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them? Alan At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
Thank you Alan. It is also worth noting that according to the latest Compliance Newsletter, found on http://www.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/update/update-feb14-en.pdf , the weekly complaint submission limit was raised from 100 to 300 complaints. This increase applies to all approved bulk submitters. Kind regards, Olivier On 12/03/2014 06:09, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them?
Alan
At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
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Hi Alan (and Garth) Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre with any ALAC discussions with Compliance Holly On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them?
Alan
At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
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I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have heard nothing back. Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us going over the same presentation that they will give in the public session, so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems appropriate. Alan At 12/03/2014 07:25 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
Hi Alan (and Garth)
Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre with any ALAC discussions with Compliance
Holly
On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them?
Alan
At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
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On Mar 12, 2014 8:33 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have heard
nothing back.
Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us going
over the same presentation that they will give in the public session, so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems appropriate. I agree, partially. The submission tool issue is important, but only part of a larger conversation about ICANN's approach towards third-party whistleblowers, consumer groups, state regulators, etc. Improving the submission tool is necessary but not sufficient. And then there is still the issue of backlogs of complaints, which cannot be brushed aside if they remain unresolved. This isn't like a bankruptcy; ICANN can't just absolve itself of responsibility because it has upgraded the contract. Even if action can't be taken because an older fraudulent act didn't violate an old RAA, these issues still needs closure as a matter of salvaging trust. It will be interesting to know how much of the above will be covered in the public Compliance session.
Dear Alan, you're correct, we have heard nothing back. Since sending our official ALAC Statement to Maguy Serad on 27 February 2014, I have received no confirmation of receipt whatsoever. Having CC'ed both Fadi Chehadé, ICANN CEO and Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair, I asked Steve when I had lunch with him last week at the London IETF. Immediately after receiving the note, Steve asked Compliance whether the Board should get involved and the response from Compliance was "no thanks, we'll work on it ourselves." I find it very poor etiquette from Compliance to not have at least acknowledged receipt of the ALAC Advice. Nonetheless, we should be pursuing this question when we meet with Compliance in Singapore. Kind regards, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair On 13/03/2014 01:30, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have heard nothing back.
Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us going over the same presentation that they will give in the public session, so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems appropriate.
Alan
At 12/03/2014 07:25 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
Hi Alan (and Garth)
Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre with any ALAC discussions with Compliance
Holly
On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them?
Alan
At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
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Thanks Olivier. I guess we should tell them that this will be a discussion item so they are not taken by surprise (although I would hope they could have figured it out for themselves). I note on the Singapore page, there is no section for topics for the Compliance meeting. Alan At 13/03/2014 05:36 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Alan,
you're correct, we have heard nothing back.
Since sending our official ALAC Statement to Maguy Serad on 27 February 2014, I have received no confirmation of receipt whatsoever. Having CC'ed both Fadi Chehadé, ICANN CEO and Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair, I asked Steve when I had lunch with him last week at the London IETF. Immediately after receiving the note, Steve asked Compliance whether the Board should get involved and the response from Compliance was "no thanks, we'll work on it ourselves."
I find it very poor etiquette from Compliance to not have at least acknowledged receipt of the ALAC Advice. Nonetheless, we should be pursuing this question when we meet with Compliance in Singapore.
Kind regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 13/03/2014 01:30, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have heard nothing back.
Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us going over the same presentation that they will give in the public session, so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems appropriate.
Alan
At 12/03/2014 07:25 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
Hi Alan (and Garth)
Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre with any ALAC discussions with Compliance
Holly
On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000 other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
To do further investigation would require more time than I have at the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me directly to develop a plan of action.
The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem that was being identified. The complaint process that we have suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY response from them?
Alan
At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
The problem summary:
Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team Reporter Email: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca Domain being reported: rapetube.org
Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
Problem in whois block: Technical Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address, "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore cannot possible be a valid address.
Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid postal code.
The same registrant for other registrations gives the same invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is apparetnly the address of a restaurant -
Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact --- Error in address: Incorrect address --- Error in email: Incorrect email --- Comment: Same information as above.
The whois at the time of processing is:
REGISTRY WHOIS:
Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG Domain ID: D155914076-LROR Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID:orgre90683958698 Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34 Registrant City:Nimes Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Registrant Postal Code:30189 Registrant Country:FR Registrant Phone:+33.466583875 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +33.466583875 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Admin ID:orgre90683959424 Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Admin Street: Rue la produit 34 Admin City:Nimes Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Admin Postal Code:30189 Admin Country:FR Admin Phone:+33.466583875 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +33.466583875 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Tech ID:orgre90683960526 Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn Tech Street: Rue la produit 34 Tech City:Nimes Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon Tech Postal Code:30189 Tech Country:FR Tech Phone:+33.466583875 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +33.466583875 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:contact@privacy-protect.cn Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
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Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond