Re: [ALAC] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet. PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections...
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is…
Regards Maureen
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL...> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013! * 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670> See: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat... The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback! Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hi Maureen - and everyone This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet. PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: Hi Silvia It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations. I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is... Regards Maureen
Hi, I still cannot find listed on the wiki the names of the ALSes with which all the "nominators" (not the nominees or candidates) and the "supporters" are affiliated. It would be good to make it available for our better information. The page I went to is https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL... . Hong On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION
§ 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL...> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
* 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670>
See:
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...
The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback!
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone
This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet.
PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up.
Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections...
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is...
Regards Maureen
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Hi Everyone I appreciate the confusion people are feeling, and views about what is or is not proceeding. The election timetable for APRALO officers has not been changed. Silvia's link below takes you to the page with the nominees and a timetable. As you can see, nominations are now closed and the elections will be held from May 17 to June 7. Please note, the candidates for the VC position include YJ, Siranush and Satish. Maureen has withdrawn.
The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace- Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
What has changed is the timetable for the elections for an APRALO representative to ALAC. The notice - below - explains where we are up to - which is taking a poll of ARPALO ALSs as to whether to continue the current process or to delay it, allowing time for the provision of information on ALAC. Right now, there is only one nominee, and I think it is fair to say that there would be more if the discussion on whether to hold the nominations had not begun. Whether KT is right legally, he is right that, whatever the outcome of the poll, we should start afresh on nominations for the ALAC position to ensure that everyone who wants to nominate has had an opportunity to do so. To do otherwise would not be fair to all. So please think through both whether you want to hold the nominations for the ALAC position sooner than 27 May, or whether we should wait until there has been an opportunity for people who may want to nominate to have information on what it means to be a member of ALAC. Thanks Holly Dear All, On behalf of APRALO leadership, a poll pertaining to the schedule of the selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC, whose term will begin at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting (AGM) scheduled for 17-21 November 2013 will be beginning shortly. This position is currently held by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro. Two arguments have been presented for consideration: (1) Proceed with the process as scheduled - The selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC should start immediately in order to have the optimal transition of role between the existing and replacement of our representatives on the ALAC in time for the AGM. (2) Delay the process until a webinar on the ALAC role has been held - The process should be delayed until a webinar is held as the role requires a certain level of awareness-raising and exchanges in terms of performance expectations, required skill and knowledge sets, workload coping mechanisms, etc. The webinar should happen prior to the nomination process so that interested individuals and voters have a good understanding of what is required. THEREFORE, a poll is being opened to determine which path APRALO would take. The question of the poll (to be sent by staff shortly) is: "It has been proposed by an ALS Member that the current selection schedule for the APRALO ALAC Representative 2013-2015 be re-scheduled to the following to accommodate a webinar on the ALAC role. APRALO Representative to the ALAC 2013-2015 Selection Schedule: May 27th - At-Large Staff and APRALO’s Chair announce selections and call for nominations. May 27th – June 14th June - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 3 weeks). June 21st - Deadline for nomination acceptances (nominees must accept nominations no later than seven days after the nomination period ends on June 14th). June 28h – July 5th - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 2013 AGM [ 17th - 21st November ] - Newly elected APRALO ALAC representative shall be seated on the ALAC at the close of the 2013 AGM on Thursday, 21st November 2013. Note: With the re-scheduling as indicated above, a webinar will be organized between now and the 27th May 2013 on the ALAC role for APRALO. Do you agree that the call for the APRALO Representative 2013-2015 selection schedule be re-scheduled to start on May 27th and end on July 12th 2013? Yes No Abstain”
Holly re some of the points you make below regarding the call for nominations for an APRALO Representative to the ALAC for end 2013-2015... Couple of things... In no particular order... There is more than 1 nominee for the role already Mareen has been nominated and seconded so is at least running against Fouads self nomination received... Why the page has not been updated yet however is a damn good question as I saw a note to list from our staff stating it would be. :-(:-(:-( And as there has been NO formal interuption, withdrawal or suspension of the call that duly began on May 3rd it is in my view still proceeding as per its advertised schedule so nominees and aspirants for the role might wish to note that... We are indeed running a poll IF it results in a desire to interupt/restart the process begun and continuing then sure we restart with new schedule and questions re standing and treatment of npminations already duly received etc., were already raised by me but yet to be discussed or responded to... If a NO vote to the poll prevails then nothong has changed to the existong call for nominations schedule and we still remain open for nominations until the proposed date so I disagree with the proposal to start over in that circumstance... The nominations under the current process still runs to 23rd May so there is ample time for people to apply post poll IF it gets a No vote (as I trust it will) CLO from my Mobile phone On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
Hi Everyone
I appreciate the confusion people are feeling, and views about what is or is not proceeding.
The election timetable for APRALO officers has not been changed. Silvia's link below takes you to the page with the nominees and a timetable. As you can see, nominations are now closed and the elections will be held from May 17 to June 7. Please note, the candidates for the VC position include YJ, Siranush and Satish. Maureen has withdrawn.
The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can
be found in the main APRALO WIKI under :
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace- Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
What has changed is the timetable for the elections for an APRALO representative to ALAC. The notice - below - explains where we are up to - which is taking a poll of ARPALO ALSs as to whether to continue the current process or to delay it, allowing time for the provision of information on ALAC. Right now, there is only one nominee, and I think it is fair to say that there would be more if the discussion on whether to hold the nominations had not begun.
Whether KT is right legally, he is right that, whatever the outcome of the poll, we should start afresh on nominations for the ALAC position to ensure that everyone who wants to nominate has had an opportunity to do so. To do otherwise would not be fair to all.
So please think through both whether you want to hold the nominations for the ALAC position sooner than 27 May, or whether we should wait until there has been an opportunity for people who may want to nominate to have information on what it means to be a member of ALAC.
Thanks
Holly
Dear All,
On behalf of APRALO leadership, a poll pertaining to the schedule of the selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC, whose term will begin at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting (AGM) scheduled for 17-21 November 2013 will be beginning shortly. This position is currently held by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro.
Two arguments have been presented for consideration:
(1) Proceed with the process as scheduled - The selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC should start immediately in order to have the optimal transition of role between the existing and replacement of our representatives on the ALAC in time for the AGM.
(2) Delay the process until a webinar on the ALAC role has been held - The process should be delayed until a webinar is held as the role requires a certain level of awareness-raising and exchanges in terms of performance expectations, required skill and knowledge sets, workload coping mechanisms, etc. The webinar should happen prior to the nomination process so that interested individuals and voters have a good understanding of what is required.
THEREFORE, a poll is being opened to determine which path APRALO would take.
The question of the poll (to be sent by staff shortly) is:
"It has been proposed by an ALS Member that the current selection schedule for the APRALO ALAC Representative 2013-2015 be re-scheduled to the following to accommodate a webinar on the ALAC role.
APRALO Representative to the ALAC 2013-2015 Selection Schedule: May 27th - At-Large Staff and APRALO’s Chair announce selections and call for nominations. May 27th – June 14th June - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 3 weeks). June 21st - Deadline for nomination acceptances (nominees must accept nominations no later than seven days after the nomination period ends on June 14th). June 28h – July 5th - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 2013 AGM [ 17th - 21st November ] - Newly elected APRALO ALAC representative shall be seated on the ALAC at the close of the 2013 AGM on Thursday, 21st November 2013.
Note: With the re-scheduling as indicated above, a webinar will be organized between now and the 27th May 2013 on the ALAC role for APRALO.
Do you agree that the call for the APRALO Representative 2013-2015 selection schedule be re-scheduled to start on May 27th and end on July 12th 2013? Yes No Abstain”
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