Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are: GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process." Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year. I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday. If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish (<http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04>http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04, Section 12.3) Alan
Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position. But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin. All the best Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com> De : <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 À : ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish ( http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04 <http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04> , Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/a lac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...)
All, I have to support Sebastien The four people are fully qualified and trustworthy. That's not the issue. Such is the life of the volunteer community in that we are all completely strapped for time, as ICANN activities pile-on it is difficult to manage it all and find new blood for slots while the bus is in motion. However, we have to find a way to keep our leadership selections democratic while also retaining experts who have precious insight. I admit it is a conundrum. On 9/21/15 2:15 PM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people – all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position.
But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com <mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com>>
De : <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 À : ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish (http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04 <http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04>, Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+%28A...>
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-- Garth Bruen gbruen@knujon.com 617-947-3805 http://www.knujon.com Fisher College, Criminal Justice Division Chair of ICANN At-Large North America (naralo.org) http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Twitter: @Knujon
Hi all, I am not an ALAC member either but also support Sebastien as well. Garth, glenn and I are making a really string effort to recruit and get new people involved. I have identified some possible people who could be future candidates, but one possible way we may want to look at this is splitting up some of the liaison positions so we can g more people involved. This way we can get some new people to act as our liaisons. Best, Juditth Sent from my iPad Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID: judithhellerstein
On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:28 PM, "gbruen@knujon.com" <gbruen@knujon.com> wrote:
All,
I have to support Sebastien
The four people are fully qualified and trustworthy. That's not the issue.
Such is the life of the volunteer community in that we are all completely strapped for time, as ICANN activities pile-on it is difficult to manage it all and find new blood for slots while the bus is in motion. However, we have to find a way to keep our leadership selections democratic while also retaining experts who have precious insight.
I admit it is a conundrum.
On 9/21/15 2:15 PM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote: Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people – all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position.
But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com>
De : <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 À : ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish ( http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04, Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...)
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...)
-- Garth Bruen gbruen@knujon.com
617-947-3805 http://www.knujon.com Fisher College, Criminal Justice Division Chair of ICANN At-Large North America (naralo.org) http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Twitter: @Knujon _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...)
Judith, for the record, the for formal Liaison are all either designated by the ICANN Bylaws, or the rules of the target groups as being a single position. I really think we need to de-couple positions such as these from "people getting involved". Most of these positions are filled by people who have been involved for quite some time - they are not entry level positions. It is an important distinction. Alan At 21/09/2015 02:59 PM, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
Hi all,
I am not an ALAC member either but also support Sebastien as well. Garth, glenn and I are making a really string effort to recruit and get new people involved. I have identified some possible people who could be future candidates, but one possible way we may want to look at this is splitting up some of the liaison positions so we can g more people involved. This way we can get some new people to act as our liaisons.
Best, Juditth
Sent from my iPad <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com>Judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID: judithhellerstein
On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:28 PM, "<mailto:gbruen@knujon.com>gbruen@knujon.com" <<mailto:gbruen@knujon.com>gbruen@knujon.com> wrote:
All,
I have to support Sebastien
The four people are fully qualified and trustworthy. That's not the issue.
Such is the life of the volunteer community in that we are all completely strapped for time, as ICANN activities pile-on it is difficult to manage it all and find new blood for slots while the bus is in motion. However, we have to find a way to keep our leadership selections democratic while also retaining experts who have precious insight.
I admit it is a conundrum.
On 9/21/15 2:15 PM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position.
But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: <http://sebastien.bachollet.fr>http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ <mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com>Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <<mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com>sebastien@bachollet.com>
<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>De : <<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>Ã : ALAC <<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish ( http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04, Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+%28ALAC%29>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list <mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
-- Garth Bruen <mailto:gbruen@knujon.com>gbruen@knujon.com
617-947-3805 http://www.knujon.com Fisher College, Criminal Justice Division Chair of ICANN At-Large North America (<http://naralo.org>naralo.org) http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Twitter: @Knujon _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list<mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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Thanks Garth, As I replied to Sebastien, we will discuss it tomorrow. I note that democracy is not only about elections, but also about vigourously debating issues, deciding on rules, and then following them. Although nonet of the people who have spoken up here were actively involved in the drafting of the RoP, all of these issues were thoroughly discussed and what we have in place were very conscious decisions attempting to balance what were and are difficult issues. Alan At 21/09/2015 02:28 PM, gbruen@knujon.com wrote:
All,
I have to support Sebastien
The four people are fully qualified and trustworthy. That's not the issue.
Such is the life of the volunteer community in that we are all completely strapped for time, as ICANN activities pile-on it is difficult to manage it all and find new blood for slots while the bus is in motion. However, we have to find a way to keep our leadership selections democratic while also retaining experts who have precious insight.
I admit it is a conundrum.
On 9/21/15 2:15 PM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position.
But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: <http://sebastien.bachollet.fr>http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <<mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com>sebastien@bachollet.com>
De : <<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 À : ALAC <<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish ( http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04, Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+%28ALAC%29>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
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At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
-- Garth Bruen <mailto:gbruen@knujon.com>gbruen@knujon.com
617-947-3805 http://www.knujon.com Fisher College, Criminal Justice Division Chair of ICANN At-Large North America (naralo.org) <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Twitter: @Knujon _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
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Sebastien, I passed this by all ALAC members and there were quite a number of explicit supports and no objections. Moreover, this has selectively been the process followed since the new Rules of Procedure were approved which explicitly allows for such a process. The issue was well discussed at the time the RoP were being revised and it was generally felt (perhaps unanimously - cannot recall) that continuity in these crucial positions, and the relationship formed between the Liaison and the target body was a major concern. Regarding the timing, as far as I can recall, Liaisons have always been selected by the outgoing ALAC. That goes as far back as 2006 when I was first selected as Liaison to the GNSO by the outgoing ALAC (when I recall you were an ALAC Member). The issue will be on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting and the ALAC can decide the way forward. Alan At 21/09/2015 02:15 PM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
Hello, Disclamer I am not member of ALAC. My point of view is in no way link with the people all four I trust very much and I thanks them to take the time and to be willing to do it another year. I am not candidat to any of those position.
But I want to express my deep concern. I disagree both with the process and the timing. Accountability and transparency must be at the heart of ALAC (and At-Large). To keep the same people again and again with no possibility for other (at least) to be candidate is not the best way to be inclusive. We need to have an open process. It must be a decision of the « new » ALAC seated at the end of the AGM in Dublin.
All the best
Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: <http://sebastien.bachollet.fr>http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <<mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com>sebastien@bachollet.com>
De : <<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date : lundi 21 septembre 2015 05:01 À : ALAC <<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : [ALAC] Liaison appointments for 2015-16
Our current ALAC-appointed Liaisons are:
GNSO: Olivier Crepin-Leblond ccNSO: Maureen Hilyard SSAC: Julie Hammer .mobi: Murray McKercher
According to ALAC RoP 18.2, "By the decision of the ALAC, a current Appointee who is willing to continue in that role may be reconfirmed instead of initiating a new selection process."
Following consultation with ALAC Members, I conclude that there is widespread agreement that we extend the appointment of all four Liaisons for the coming year.
I will be asking that the ALAC make a formal decision on this at the ALAC meeting on Tuesday.
If you will not be able to attend the meeting, please arrange with another ALAC member to vote on your behalf, and notify At-Large Staff of this arrangement. You may either instruct the proxy-holder how to vote, or you may allow them to vote as they wish ( http://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2013-04, Section 12.3)
Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
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