Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] Fwd: Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group
I do not think that I have the time to be the second person on this group, despite my strong interest in the subject (I am spending close to full time on the STI Review team right now). I would appreciate being on the core mailing list as an observer (and alternate if applicable) and on the ALAC/AT-Large support group. Alan At 09/11/2009 12:09 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
FYI as it relates to exchanges running in this list...
CLO
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Date: 2009/11/10 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group To: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>, james@seng.sg, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>, ALAC Working List < alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Patrick... Thank you for the "heads up" on this and those of us who were supportive of this concept in Seoul will indeed be very interested in how the work of this ad-hoc "cross-community" WG...
Clearly some assumptions have been made in the lead up to and the formation of this WG and we [ALAC] in my view need to work within the framework of the formal documentation sent to ICANN as attached by Patrick in his original email to the public at-large list (and the following thread regarding WG "membership") and recognizing that the formation of this WG is not either ICANN Board directed or Chartered under the auspices of any SO or AC, there are a couple of points, that as ALAC in my view we need to address urgently:- 1. The documentation and Charter (Section 3a) calls for "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" 2. The documentation lists its "EOI Working Group Participants" as *'awaiting confirmation'* relating to the two (2) member positions for the ALAC (and here we can as we often do [have precedent] make that 'two members from ALAC' to be 'two from ALAC / At-large' in a balanced ratio [1:1 in this case] in my view) the following;
Name ICANN Affiliation WG Position
1. Patrick Van de Walle At-Large Member 2. * {To Be Appointed/Confirmed}* ALAC Member
3. The documentation also states that "Given the short time frame for the work to be completed, a core group of points of contact will be responsible for the work. The slate of participants is ...... from a wide cross section of the ICANN community. In establishing the points of contact slate. The Working Group looked for well-respected members of a wide range of constituencies from diverse geographical regions."
This principal does *not* indicate that all geographic regions must be covered nor that the second "ALAC / At-Large slot" has to come from Africa (though it would be desirable to see true geographic (or other) diversity being attended to more seriously.
So as I see it regardless of 'in what capacity' people volunteered or were selected for this WG we have an additional ALAC appointment to make and we need to confirm Patrick formally.
As has been our practice in such tightly focussed WG's (e.g. the post Paris meeting GNSO Improvements WG and the current GNSO SIT-WG) the ALAC will facilitate and support our representatives in their work directly via activities and engagement with ALAC - Working Groups (or Work Teams thereof) existing or ad hoc for the role, and we will be happy to arrange for conference calls etc., to assist in specific WG and wider At-Large community input for this purpose.
Therefore I propose that we ask who from the ALAC is willing and able to make the considerable commitment to undertake the role of the second WG-Member... Assuming here that you all agree with me that our SSAC Liaison is to be confirmed...
As I see it there are two obvious choices:
a) appoint our GNSO Liaison as it fits within mandate of his role => Alan do you have the time available?
or
b) appoint James (who has already indicated his interest and availability) and who can act as both our ALAC voice and in his IDN Liaison capacity.
Responses please as soon as possible! As I would want to confirm our "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" at the meeting Patrick is attending or as soon as possible after that...
CLO
2009/11/9 Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>
I am forwarding this e-mail from Antony Van Couvering regarding the Expression of Interest working group.
In summary, there is a proposal to the ICANN board to allow potential new gTLD applicants to formally notify ICANN of their interest to apply for a new gTLD.
The goal is that it will allow ICANN to figure out the exact number of applications they will get. Figures from 100 to 10.000 have been commonly heard. But no one know for sure right now. It will allow ICANN to size their operations accordingly.
For the applicants, it will allow them to see if there are multiple applications for the same string, allowing them to either start possible partnerships ahead of the formal call for applications or to throw the towel right away, potentially saving them a lot of money by avoiding and expensive application process and auctions. In the end, we all know that the costs will be passed on to registrants one way or another.
I have joined this working group in an individual capacity, with no mandate from the ALAC. However, I was approached to participate because it was thought I could bring some "At-large flavour" to the discussion. Hence, I look forward to receive your comments and will relay them to the group.
Note that the deadline is pretty tight. We already have a teleconference tonight (Monday) and a final call next Friday.
Looking forward to your comments,
Patrick
-------- Original Message --------
Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group
Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:48:43 -0500
Antony Van Couvering
avc@mindsandmachines.com
I sent the following note to Rod Beckstrom, Peter Dengate-Thrush, Doug Brent, and Kurt Pritz a few minutes ago. ICANN Board and staff are now on notice that we will be giving them something to work from. The attachments are: - a formal letter - the formation charter - the initial first draft plan The charter and the plan were sent to most of you earlier. I will provide call-in information for the Monday phone conference as soon as I have it. We are still waiting for confirmation of membership from 3 people, their names were redacted in the version sent to ICANN. Thanks for joining up. Antony
Begin forwarded message: FROM: Antony Van Couvering DATE: November 6, 2009 4:16:44 PM EST TO: Rod Beckstrom CC: peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [3], doug.brent@icann.org [4], kurt.pritz@icann.org [5] SUBJECT: EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST WORKING GROUP
Gentlemen,
Please find attached our correspondence and accompanying documents relating to the formation of a cross-community 18-person working group, called the Expression of Interest Working Group, which will present to staff a proposal for the Expressions of Interest plan called for by the Resolution from the ICANN Board on October 30 in Seoul.
We have an aggressive schedule to meet your deadline and will appreciate any support you can give us. In particular, we plan to have a Working Group phone call next Monday and any assistance with phone bridges and/or transcription would be most helpful.
A full list of our membership is included in the attached documents, but you may feel free to contact me directly with any questions or to co-ordinate activities.
With best regards,
Antony Van Couvering
Links: ------ [1] mailto:avc@mindsandmachines.com [2] mailto:rod.beckstrom@icann.org [3] mailto:peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [4] mailto:doug.brent@icann.org [5] mailto:kurt.pritz@icann.org
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Thanks for the prompt reply Alan... James may we assume you are willing to take this role then? Patrick unless we hear objections from the rest of ALAC can you please pass onto James the details of this first call so that if possible he can attend, and also inform Antony, Jothan, Liz & Nick (in advance of whomever is to be appointed Chair of the gTLD-EOI-WG) that ALAC has confirmed yourself and James as our ALAC Members (community points of contact) and that Alan Greenberg our GNSO Liaison will act as alternate to both of you and should also be put on any mailing list etc., Thanks (looking forward to the feedback from meeting #1) CLO Alan Greenberg wrote:
I do not think that I have the time to be the second person on this group, despite my strong interest in the subject (I am spending close to full time on the STI Review team right now). I would appreciate being on the core mailing list as an observer (and alternate if applicable) and on the ALAC/AT-Large support group.
Alan
At 09/11/2009 12:09 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
FYI as it relates to exchanges running in this list...
CLO
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Date: 2009/11/10 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group To: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>, james@seng.sg, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>, ALAC Working List < alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Patrick... Thank you for the "heads up" on this and those of us who were supportive of this concept in Seoul will indeed be very interested in how the work of this ad-hoc "cross-community" WG...
Clearly some assumptions have been made in the lead up to and the formation of this WG and we [ALAC] in my view need to work within the framework of the formal documentation sent to ICANN as attached by Patrick in his original email to the public at-large list (and the following thread regarding WG "membership") and recognizing that the formation of this WG is not either ICANN Board directed or Chartered under the auspices of any SO or AC, there are a couple of points, that as ALAC in my view we need to address urgently:- 1. The documentation and Charter (Section 3a) calls for "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" 2. The documentation lists its "EOI Working Group Participants" as *'awaiting confirmation'* relating to the two (2) member positions for the ALAC (and here we can as we often do [have precedent] make that 'two members from ALAC' to be 'two from ALAC / At-large' in a balanced ratio [1:1 in this case] in my view) the following;
Name ICANN Affiliation WG Position
1. Patrick Van de Walle At-Large Member 2. * {To Be Appointed/Confirmed}* ALAC Member
3. The documentation also states that "Given the short time frame for the work to be completed, a core group of points of contact will be responsible for the work. The slate of participants is ...... from a wide cross section of the ICANN community. In establishing the points of contact slate. The Working Group looked for well-respected members of a wide range of constituencies from diverse geographical regions."
This principal does *not* indicate that all geographic regions must be covered nor that the second "ALAC / At-Large slot" has to come from Africa (though it would be desirable to see true geographic (or other) diversity being attended to more seriously.
So as I see it regardless of 'in what capacity' people volunteered or were selected for this WG we have an additional ALAC appointment to make and we need to confirm Patrick formally.
As has been our practice in such tightly focussed WG's (e.g. the post Paris meeting GNSO Improvements WG and the current GNSO SIT-WG) the ALAC will facilitate and support our representatives in their work directly via activities and engagement with ALAC - Working Groups (or Work Teams thereof) existing or ad hoc for the role, and we will be happy to arrange for conference calls etc., to assist in specific WG and wider At-Large community input for this purpose.
Therefore I propose that we ask who from the ALAC is willing and able to make the considerable commitment to undertake the role of the second WG-Member... Assuming here that you all agree with me that our SSAC Liaison is to be confirmed...
As I see it there are two obvious choices:
a) appoint our GNSO Liaison as it fits within mandate of his role => Alan do you have the time available?
or
b) appoint James (who has already indicated his interest and availability) and who can act as both our ALAC voice and in his IDN Liaison capacity.
Responses please as soon as possible! As I would want to confirm our "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" at the meeting Patrick is attending or as soon as possible after that...
CLO
2009/11/9 Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>
I am forwarding this e-mail from Antony Van Couvering regarding the Expression of Interest working group.
In summary, there is a proposal to the ICANN board to allow potential new gTLD applicants to formally
notify
ICANN of their interest to apply for a new gTLD.
The goal is that it will allow ICANN to figure out the exact number of applications they will get. Figures from 100 to 10.000 have been commonly heard. But no one know for sure right now. It will allow ICANN to size their operations accordingly.
For the applicants, it will allow them to see if there are multiple applications for the same string, allowing them to either start possible partnerships ahead of the formal call for applications or to throw the towel right away, potentially saving them a lot of money by avoiding and expensive application process and auctions. In the end, we all know that the costs will be passed on to registrants one way or another.
I have joined this working group in an individual capacity, with no mandate from the ALAC. However, I was approached to participate because it was thought I could bring some "At-large flavour" to the discussion. Hence, I look forward to receive your comments and will relay them to the group.
Note that the deadline is pretty tight. We already have a teleconference tonight (Monday) and a final call next Friday.
Looking forward to your comments,
Patrick
-------- Original Message --------
Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group
Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:48:43 -0500
Antony Van Couvering
avc@mindsandmachines.com
I sent the following note to Rod Beckstrom, Peter Dengate-Thrush, Doug Brent, and Kurt Pritz a few minutes ago. ICANN Board and staff are now on notice that we will be giving them something to work from. The attachments are: - a formal letter - the formation charter - the initial first draft plan The charter and the plan were sent to most of you earlier. I will provide call-in information for the Monday phone conference as soon as I have it. We are still waiting for confirmation of membership from 3 people, their names were redacted in the version sent to ICANN. Thanks for joining up. Antony
Begin forwarded message: FROM: Antony Van Couvering DATE: November 6, 2009 4:16:44 PM EST TO: Rod Beckstrom CC: peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [3], doug.brent@icann.org [4], kurt.pritz@icann.org [5] SUBJECT: EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST WORKING GROUP
Gentlemen,
Please find attached our correspondence and accompanying documents relating to the formation of a cross-community 18-person working group, called the Expression of Interest Working Group, which will present to staff a proposal for the Expressions of Interest plan called for by the Resolution from the ICANN Board on October 30 in Seoul.
We have an aggressive schedule to meet your deadline and will appreciate any support you can give us. In particular, we plan to have a Working Group phone call next Monday and any assistance with phone bridges and/or transcription would be most helpful.
A full list of our membership is included in the attached documents, but you may feel free to contact me directly with any questions or to co-ordinate activities.
With best regards,
Antony Van Couvering
Links: ------ [1] mailto:avc@mindsandmachines.com [2] mailto:rod.beckstrom@icann.org [3] mailto:peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [4] mailto:doug.brent@icann.org [5] mailto:kurt.pritz@icann.org
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Dear Cheryl, I second the proposal that Patrick be formally appointed and James be formally proposed. Thanks and best regards Dave Kissoondoyal MBA,ACMI President - Internet Society of Mauritius | Member - ICANN At Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) | Member - PIR .ORG Advisory Council |) +230 2578703 | 6 +230 2398701 | ? Informatics Park, La Tour Koenig, Pointe aux Sables. Mauritius | + dave@isoc-mu.org The information contained in this transmission, including any attachments hereto, is confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at the information provided and return any and all copies of this communication to the sender. -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Langdon-Orr Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:03 PM To: james@seng.sg; patrick@vande-walle.eu Cc: ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [ALAC] [At-Large] Fwd: Fwd: Expressions of InterestWorking Group Thanks for the prompt reply Alan... James may we assume you are willing to take this role then? Patrick unless we hear objections from the rest of ALAC can you please pass onto James the details of this first call so that if possible he can attend, and also inform Antony, Jothan, Liz & Nick (in advance of whomever is to be appointed Chair of the gTLD-EOI-WG) that ALAC has confirmed yourself and James as our ALAC Members (community points of contact) and that Alan Greenberg our GNSO Liaison will act as alternate to both of you and should also be put on any mailing list etc., Thanks (looking forward to the feedback from meeting #1) CLO Alan Greenberg wrote:
I do not think that I have the time to be the second person on this group, despite my strong interest in the subject (I am spending close to full time on the STI Review team right now). I would appreciate being on the core mailing list as an observer (and alternate if applicable) and on the ALAC/AT-Large support group.
Alan
At 09/11/2009 12:09 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
FYI as it relates to exchanges running in this list...
CLO
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Date: 2009/11/10 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group To: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>, james@seng.sg, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>, ALAC Working List < alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Patrick... Thank you for the "heads up" on this and those of us who were supportive of this concept in Seoul will indeed be very interested in how the work of this ad-hoc "cross-community" WG...
Clearly some assumptions have been made in the lead up to and the formation of this WG and we [ALAC] in my view need to work within the framework of the formal documentation sent to ICANN as attached by Patrick in his original email to the public at-large list (and the following thread regarding WG "membership") and recognizing that the formation of this WG is not either ICANN Board directed or Chartered under the auspices of any SO or AC, there are a couple of points, that as ALAC in my view we need to address urgently:- 1. The documentation and Charter (Section 3a) calls for "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" 2. The documentation lists its "EOI Working Group Participants" as *'awaiting confirmation'* relating to the two (2) member positions for the ALAC (and here we can as we often do [have precedent] make that 'two members from ALAC' to be 'two from ALAC / At-large' in a balanced ratio [1:1 in this case] in my view) the following;
Name ICANN Affiliation WG Position
1. Patrick Van de Walle At-Large Member 2. * {To Be Appointed/Confirmed}* ALAC Member
3. The documentation also states that "Given the short time frame for the work to be completed, a core group of points of contact will be responsible for the work. The slate of participants is ...... from a wide cross section of the ICANN community. In establishing the points of contact slate. The Working Group looked for well-respected members of a wide range of constituencies from diverse geographical regions."
This principal does *not* indicate that all geographic regions must be covered nor that the second "ALAC / At-Large slot" has to come from Africa (though it would be desirable to see true geographic (or other) diversity being attended to more seriously.
So as I see it regardless of 'in what capacity' people volunteered or were selected for this WG we have an additional ALAC appointment to make and we need to confirm Patrick formally.
As has been our practice in such tightly focussed WG's (e.g. the post Paris meeting GNSO Improvements WG and the current GNSO SIT-WG) the ALAC will facilitate and support our representatives in their work directly via activities and engagement with ALAC - Working Groups (or Work Teams thereof) existing or ad hoc for the role, and we will be happy to arrange for conference calls etc., to assist in specific WG and wider At-Large community input for this purpose.
Therefore I propose that we ask who from the ALAC is willing and able to make the considerable commitment to undertake the role of the second WG-Member... Assuming here that you all agree with me that our SSAC Liaison is to be confirmed...
As I see it there are two obvious choices:
a) appoint our GNSO Liaison as it fits within mandate of his role => Alan do you have the time available?
or
b) appoint James (who has already indicated his interest and availability) and who can act as both our ALAC voice and in his IDN Liaison capacity.
Responses please as soon as possible! As I would want to confirm our "Two(2)Members from the ALAC;" at the meeting Patrick is attending or as soon as possible after that...
CLO
2009/11/9 Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu>
I am forwarding this e-mail from Antony Van Couvering regarding the Expression of Interest working group.
In summary, there is a proposal to the ICANN board to allow potential new gTLD applicants to formally
notify
ICANN of their interest to apply for a new gTLD.
The goal is that it will allow ICANN to figure out the exact number of applications they will get. Figures from 100 to 10.000 have been commonly heard. But no one know for sure right now. It will allow ICANN to size their operations accordingly.
For the applicants, it will allow them to see if there are multiple applications for the same string, allowing them to either start possible partnerships ahead of the formal call for applications or to throw the towel right away, potentially saving them a lot of money by avoiding and expensive application process and auctions. In the end, we all know that the costs will be passed on to registrants one way or another.
I have joined this working group in an individual capacity, with no mandate from the ALAC. However, I was approached to participate because it was thought I could bring some "At-large flavour" to the discussion. Hence, I look forward to receive your comments and will relay them to the group.
Note that the deadline is pretty tight. We already have a teleconference tonight (Monday) and a final call next Friday.
Looking forward to your comments,
Patrick
-------- Original Message --------
Fwd: Expressions of Interest Working Group
Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:48:43 -0500
Antony Van Couvering
avc@mindsandmachines.com
I sent the following note to Rod Beckstrom, Peter Dengate-Thrush, Doug Brent, and Kurt Pritz a few minutes ago. ICANN Board and staff are now on notice that we will be giving them something to work from. The attachments are: - a formal letter - the formation charter - the initial first draft plan The charter and the plan were sent to most of you earlier. I will provide call-in information for the Monday phone conference as soon as I have it. We are still waiting for confirmation of membership from 3 people, their names were redacted in the version sent to ICANN. Thanks for joining up. Antony
Begin forwarded message: FROM: Antony Van Couvering DATE: November 6, 2009 4:16:44 PM EST TO: Rod Beckstrom CC: peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [3], doug.brent@icann.org [4], kurt.pritz@icann.org [5] SUBJECT: EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST WORKING GROUP
Gentlemen,
Please find attached our correspondence and accompanying documents relating to the formation of a cross-community 18-person working group, called the Expression of Interest Working Group, which will present to staff a proposal for the Expressions of Interest plan called for by the Resolution from the ICANN Board on October 30 in Seoul.
We have an aggressive schedule to meet your deadline and will appreciate any support you can give us. In particular, we plan to have a Working Group phone call next Monday and any assistance with phone bridges and/or transcription would be most helpful.
A full list of our membership is included in the attached documents, but you may feel free to contact me directly with any questions or to co-ordinate activities.
With best regards,
Antony Van Couvering
Links: ------ [1] mailto:avc@mindsandmachines.com [2] mailto:rod.beckstrom@icann.org [3] mailto:peter.dengatethrush@icann.org [4] mailto:doug.brent@icann.org [5] mailto:kurt.pritz@icann.org
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