Since there seems to be some confusion about the "Sole Designator" model, at least partly because of the horrible name, I put together this description. I did pass it by Leon, so I think it is pretty accurate. I hope you find it useful. Alan
Hello Alan, A few comments below: Alan wrote: "...The cases of directors appointed by the Board, or entire Board removal will be dealt with later..." Do you mean this will not be addressed by the CCWG? and are there instances where board unilaterally appoints board member? Alan wrote: "....To be clear, although the Sole Designator may be used to communicate the result of a community decision, it is the entire set of AC/SO communities that may participate in any decision....." Well considering the current CCWG proposal, this is not entirely accurate in the case of the individual board removal. Nevertheless I guess there is no need to raise it as an issue again. Regards On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
Since there seems to be some confusion about the "Sole Designator" model, at least partly because of the horrible name, I put together this description. I did pass it by Leon, so I think it is pretty accurate.
I hope you find it useful.
Alan
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Great questions On 10/21/15 3:36 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
A few comments below:
Alan wrote: "...The cases of directors appointed by the Board, or entire Board removal will be dealt with later..." Do you mean this will not be addressed by the CCWG? and are there instances where board unilaterally appoints board member?
Alan wrote: "....To be clear, although the Sole Designator may be used to communicate the result of a community decision, it is the entire set of AC/SO communities that may participate in any decision....."
Well considering the current CCWG proposal, this is not entirely accurate in the case of the individual board removal. Nevertheless I guess there is no need to raise it as an issue again.
Regards
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> wrote:
Since there seems to be some confusion about the "Sole Designator" model, at least partly because of the horrible name, I put together this description. I did pass it by Leon, so I think it is pretty accurate.
I hope you find it useful.
Alan
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Very useful to get everyone here on the same page. But IMHO, it is neither the the messenger or routing - of the decision contained in the message! - that matters to the people that matter. It is and always will be 'who but us is consecrated in law and practice to make decisions coming on fiduciary and statutory responsibilities'. I hope they don't take the bait and go down that rat hole with an argy-bargy on designator vs. membership models. For my own sense is that at Board level there is no lack of understanding of both and their concomitant implications. It is rather the distance between Board and CCWG on the matter of who shall exercise the real power. Designator or membership model, the political act remains the same. The fellows with final say on the model remain the ones who must knowingly agree to devolution of their powers. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
Since there seems to be some confusion about the "Sole Designator" model, at least partly because of the horrible name, I put together this description. I did pass it by Leon, so I think it is pretty accurate.
I hope you find it useful.
Alan
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just looking up "concomitant"... On 10/21/15 4:45 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
Very useful to get everyone here on the same page. But IMHO, it is neither the the messenger or routing - of the decision contained in the message! - that matters to the people that matter. It is and always will be 'who but us is consecrated in law and practice to make decisions coming on fiduciary and statutory responsibilities'.
I hope they don't take the bait and go down that rat hole with an argy-bargy on designator vs. membership models. For my own sense is that at Board level there is no lack of understanding of both and their concomitant implications. It is rather the distance between Board and CCWG on the matter of who shall exercise the real power.
Designator or membership model, the political act remains the same. The fellows with final say on the model remain the ones who must knowingly agree to devolution of their powers.
-Carlton
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> wrote:
Since there seems to be some confusion about the "Sole Designator" model, at least partly because of the horrible name, I put together this description. I did pass it by Leon, so I think it is pretty accurate.
I hope you find it useful.
Alan
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