Nope. I will make the change that you suggested. Alan At 01/04/2013 06:30 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

My comments are on the wiki page. do you need them repeated here?

On 1 April 2013 17:41, Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: Thanks Carlton. But after due consideration. I don't think I will include that in the formal statement. :-)

Alan

At 31/03/2013 06:16 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

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Um, harsh you say? By gum.......I say again, it isn't worth a warm bucket of spit.

-Carlton

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On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Alan Greenberg <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca><mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: Holly had volunteered to look at the Public Interest Commitment (PIC) Dispute Resolution Procedure (DRP) and see if an ALAC statement was required.

Due to time constraints, she could not do this, and Olivier asked my to follow up on it.

I did so, and found that the DRP was, in my mind, not satisfactory. The DRP can be found at <<http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/draft-picdrp-15mar13- en.pdf>http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/draft-picdrp-15mar13-en.pdf>http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/draft-picdrp-15mar13-en.pdf.

The statement can be found at <<https://community.icann.org/x/pJlwAg>https://community.icann.org/ x/pJlwAg>https://community.icann.org/x/pJlwAg and is also reproduced below. It is short, but somewhat harsher than those I would normally draft.

Alan

======================== ALAC Statement on Public Interest Commitments Dispute Resolution Procedure

The ALAC is disappointed in the proposed mechanism for enforcement of the new gTLD Public Interest Commitments.

Although described a dispute resolution procedure, the process was introduce whereby a Public Interest Commitment (PIC) could be "enforced by ICANN" (<<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/base-agreement-05feb 13-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/base-agreement-05feb13-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/base-agreement-05feb13-en.htm).

When announced, many in the community presumed that "enforced" included an ICANN Compliance connection, and that "by ICANN" in fact meant, "by ICANN".

As it stands, the process:

- Requires possibly significant fees, the magnitude of which are currently;

- Requires that the complainant can show measurable harm due to the violation;

- May be filed by ICANN, but there is no obligation to do so.

Since no exception is noted, presumably ICANN could only file an objection if ICANN itself could demonstrate that it was measurable harmed. This sounds like a return to the days when the only sanctions ICANN applied under the RAA were those where ICANN was not being paid.

Using this same standard of language, one could say that "trade-marks are enforced by ICANN" because it has provided the UDRP.

There was much hope in the community that the PIC would go at least part way to recovering from the mistake of not requiring all new gTLD applicants to stand by their application promises once the new TLD is delegated. This hope has not been satisfied.

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