Re: [ALAC] draft statement on consumer constituency charter
Adam...thanks for your comments. Is "global representation" the new buzzword by which the Internet governance crowd plans to try to defeat this petition this time around? I suppose that's better than attacking its participants as frauds. -----Original Message-----
From: Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> Sent: Jan 29, 2010 7:11 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC] draft statement on consumer constituency charter
I strongly support the creation of the constituency, however not this application with the membership as described in the text.
On recognition of a new Constituency ICANN bylaws <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.3> say:
"Recognition is granted by the Board based upon the extent to which, in fact, the entity represents the global interests of the stakeholder communities it purports to represent..."
and the following section <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.4b>
"A detailed explanation of why the proposed new Constituency adequately represents, on a global basis, the stakeholders it seeks to represent;"
Membership as described is not globally representative. Recognition on the grounds that it's a "Good start" would be setting a very poor precedent for future constituency applications (and would seem to be contrary to the language "in fact" in section 5.3?)
So for now I would say:
As it did during the previous public comment period earlier this year, the At-Large Advisory Committee states its support for the creation of a consumer constituency in the non-commercial stakeholder group in the GNSO. Since one of At-Large's goals is to support the interests of all Internet users, we believe that consumer and public interest groups must [should] have a strong representative voice in the GNSO policymaking environment.
We applaud the organizers' efforts to recruit additional organizations, however at this time we do not believe the applicant has met an acceptable standard of representing the global interests of consumers as the ICANN bylaws require. As such we do not recommend the board approve the constituency application at this time. However, we very strongly urge the board to support the applicant in further outreach to national and international consumer organizations, including providing funds to enable representatives of interested groups to attend an ICANN meeting, we suggest Brussels, where sessions relevant to consumer interests relevant to the scope of ICANN's work should be held.
Adam
As the ALAC Meeting asked for you to put a simple Statement reflecting our previously stated views on this together and to respond to the current update on the petition, personally I'm happy for this to go to Vote now unless someone on this list objects... (In the next 12-24 hrs) and if we do need to edit / discuss we need that to happen in short order over the next few days... Then we need to send it to Public Comments (be nice to have something in ahead of the deadline ;-)
CLO
2010/1/29 Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net>
So I thought I would run this by you both. If you like it feel free to post it to the list for comment or straight to the ALAC for a vote, I guess (?). I see no reason for it to be long. ------------------ As it did during the previous public comment period earlier this year, the At-Large Advisory Committee states its support for the creation of a consumer constituency in the non-commercial stakeholder group in the GNSO. Since one of At-Large's goals is to support the interests of all Internet users, we believe that consumer and public interest groups should have a strong representative voice in the GNSO policymaking environment. We applaud the organizers' efforts to recruit additional organizations, including the Greek consumer group EKPIZO, and to obtain formal commitments from those who have already expressed interest. Consumers' constituency members come from Canada, Belgium, Greece, Slovenia and Australia and we believe this represents a small, but good start in obtaining broad geographic representation. We encourage the board to approve the constituency so that its organizers can recruit new members from a solid foundation.
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From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Jan 27, 2010 11:25 AM To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Policy Advice Schedule - New Constituency Petition and Charter
Beau, another blank message from you! Alan
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At 8:12 AM -0500 1/29/10, Beau Brendler wrote:
Adam...thanks for your comments.
Is "global representation" the new buzzword by which the Internet governance crowd plans to try to defeat this petition this time around?
No, language from the ICANN bylaws. The first section <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.3> is new to the stakeholder group arrangement of the various contracted houses. The second <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.4b> has been in various versions of the bylaws since the evolution and reform process of 2002.
I suppose that's better than attacking its participants as frauds.
Thanks, Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> Sent: Jan 29, 2010 7:11 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC] draft statement on consumer constituency charter
I strongly support the creation of the constituency, however not this application with the membership as described in the text.
On recognition of a new Constituency ICANN bylaws <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.3> say:
"Recognition is granted by the Board based upon the extent to which, in fact, the entity represents the global interests of the stakeholder communities it purports to represent..."
and the following section <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#X-5.4b>
"A detailed explanation of why the proposed new Constituency adequately represents, on a global basis, the stakeholders it seeks to represent;"
Membership as described is not globally representative. Recognition on the grounds that it's a "Good start" would be setting a very poor precedent for future constituency applications (and would seem to be contrary to the language "in fact" in section 5.3?)
So for now I would say:
As it did during the previous public comment period earlier this year, the At-Large Advisory Committee states its support for the creation of a consumer constituency in the non-commercial stakeholder group in the GNSO. Since one of At-Large's goals is to support the interests of all Internet users, we believe that consumer and public interest groups must [should] have a strong representative voice in the GNSO policymaking environment.
We applaud the organizers' efforts to recruit additional organizations, however at this time we do not believe the applicant has met an acceptable standard of representing the global interests of consumers as the ICANN bylaws require. As such we do not recommend the board approve the constituency application at this time. However, we very strongly urge the board to support the applicant in further outreach to national and international consumer organizations, including providing funds to enable representatives of interested groups to attend an ICANN meeting, we suggest Brussels, where sessions relevant to consumer interests relevant to the scope of ICANN's work should be held.
Adam
As the ALAC Meeting asked for you to put a simple Statement reflecting our previously stated views on this together and to respond to the current update on the petition, personally I'm happy for this to go to Vote now unless someone on this list objects... (In the next 12-24 hrs) and if we do need to edit / discuss we need that to happen in short order over the next few days... Then we need to send it to Public Comments (be nice to have something in ahead of the deadline ;-)
CLO
2010/1/29 Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net>
So I thought I would run this by you both. If you like it feel free to post it to the list for comment or straight to the ALAC for a vote, I guess (?). I see no reason for it to be long. ------------------ As it did during the previous public comment period earlier this year, the At-Large Advisory Committee states its support for the creation of a consumer constituency in the non-commercial stakeholder group in the GNSO. Since one of At-Large's goals is to support the interests of all Internet users, we believe that consumer and public interest groups should have a strong representative voice in the GNSO policymaking environment. We applaud the organizers' efforts to recruit additional organizations, including the Greek consumer group EKPIZO, and to obtain formal commitments from those who have already expressed interest. Consumers' constituency members come from Canada, Belgium, Greece, Slovenia and Australia and we believe this represents a small, but good start in obtaining broad geographic representation. We encourage the board to approve the constituency so that its organizers can recruit new members from a solid foundation.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Jan 27, 2010 11:25 AM To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Policy Advice Schedule - New Constituency Petition and Charter
Beau, another blank message from you! Alan
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