Re: [ALAC] NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
count me in...time for a unified front...going through "channels" doesn't work very well, though it's taken me perilously too long to figure that out -----Original Message-----
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Sent: Nov 18, 2010 4:14 AM To: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Hi
Alan and I chatted a little about whether we should try to organize an ALAC/NCSG social thing in Cartagena, but then I was traveling with spotty connectivity for a couple weeks and didn't follow up. NCSG had it's monthly meeting the other night and people expressed interest, so now I'm circling back to see whether there's interest in ALAC too? Of course, if a whole evening with dinner is too much to squeeze in, we could just do an end of the work day pre-dinner meet in the hotel bar, like 6-8pm or whatever.
Please cogitate and let me know?
Thanks
Bill
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From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Date: October 30, 2010 8:40:54 AM GMT+02:00 To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Well, there are in fact some things on which coordination would be logical, but given the recurrent difficulty of organizing something and the perhaps related shadows of all the histories involving various individuals, I tend to think the most unifying approach is to avoid unified inter-org meetings, instead gather socially, and then the various pairs and such who work well together can socialize and later build on that. In other words, I think incremental, fragmentary trust/collaboration building is the way to lay a foundation from which broader comity and coordination can eventually evolve. And anyway, people like to party…
Sat-Sun is GNSO stuff, Tuesdays is for tribes and loud music, Wed gala, Thursday people are often moving into see the town mode. So Monday is always the main option, at least on the NC side. But if memory serves ALAC folks often do ISOC stuff then, no?
Anyway, with enough advanced warning I can probably sell Monday or Thursday night, or failing that just a end of the day drink in the hotel bar before people head to evening activities. Last time we waited until everyone already had plans.
So poke around and let me know?
BD
On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Certainly worth a try. I presume you are talking something more on the social side rather than a scheduled meeting - right?
I know that we have some sort of ALAC or At-Large event on Thursday evening, so that reduces the number of possible times evenings to Monday and Tuesday (haven't heard if there is the becoming standard unbearably-loud-music-night this time).
Alan
At 29/10/2010 08:58 AM, William Drake wrote:
Shall we try it again? It would seem particularly apt now that there's been various productive collaborations and some of the frictions are further in the past etc…
BD
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Hi Great Beau, will be good to catch up with bits unchanneled... And thanks Wolf for posting the Doodle, which I've pointed NCSGers to. See you tomorrow at the UN for an altered state of reality... Bill On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Beau Brendler wrote:
count me in...time for a unified front...going through "channels" doesn't work very well, though it's taken me perilously too long to figure that out
-----Original Message-----
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Sent: Nov 18, 2010 4:14 AM To: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Hi
Alan and I chatted a little about whether we should try to organize an ALAC/NCSG social thing in Cartagena, but then I was traveling with spotty connectivity for a couple weeks and didn't follow up. NCSG had it's monthly meeting the other night and people expressed interest, so now I'm circling back to see whether there's interest in ALAC too? Of course, if a whole evening with dinner is too much to squeeze in, we could just do an end of the work day pre-dinner meet in the hotel bar, like 6-8pm or whatever.
Please cogitate and let me know?
Thanks
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Date: October 30, 2010 8:40:54 AM GMT+02:00 To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Well, there are in fact some things on which coordination would be logical, but given the recurrent difficulty of organizing something and the perhaps related shadows of all the histories involving various individuals, I tend to think the most unifying approach is to avoid unified inter-org meetings, instead gather socially, and then the various pairs and such who work well together can socialize and later build on that. In other words, I think incremental, fragmentary trust/collaboration building is the way to lay a foundation from which broader comity and coordination can eventually evolve. And anyway, people like to party…
Sat-Sun is GNSO stuff, Tuesdays is for tribes and loud music, Wed gala, Thursday people are often moving into see the town mode. So Monday is always the main option, at least on the NC side. But if memory serves ALAC folks often do ISOC stuff then, no?
Anyway, with enough advanced warning I can probably sell Monday or Thursday night, or failing that just a end of the day drink in the hotel bar before people head to evening activities. Last time we waited until everyone already had plans.
So poke around and let me know?
BD
On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Certainly worth a try. I presume you are talking something more on the social side rather than a scheduled meeting - right?
I know that we have some sort of ALAC or At-Large event on Thursday evening, so that reduces the number of possible times evenings to Monday and Tuesday (haven't heard if there is the becoming standard unbearably-loud-music-night this time).
Alan
At 29/10/2010 08:58 AM, William Drake wrote:
Shall we try it again? It would seem particularly apt now that there's been various productive collaborations and some of the frictions are further in the past etc…
BD
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
Hi, Bill, I just doodled. It seems an overwhelming majority prefers to Monday Evening after 8:00pm. Hong On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:30 PM, William Drake < william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> wrote:
Hi
Great Beau, will be good to catch up with bits unchanneled...
And thanks Wolf for posting the Doodle, which I've pointed NCSGers to. See you tomorrow at the UN for an altered state of reality...
Bill
On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Beau Brendler wrote:
count me in...time for a unified front...going through "channels" doesn't work very well, though it's taken me perilously too long to figure that out
-----Original Message-----
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Sent: Nov 18, 2010 4:14 AM To: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Hi
Alan and I chatted a little about whether we should try to organize an ALAC/NCSG social thing in Cartagena, but then I was traveling with spotty connectivity for a couple weeks and didn't follow up. NCSG had it's monthly meeting the other night and people expressed interest, so now I'm circling back to see whether there's interest in ALAC too? Of course, if a whole evening with dinner is too much to squeeze in, we could just do an end of the work day pre-dinner meet in the hotel bar, like 6-8pm or whatever.
Please cogitate and let me know?
Thanks
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Date: October 30, 2010 8:40:54 AM GMT+02:00 To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Well, there are in fact some things on which coordination would be logical, but given the recurrent difficulty of organizing something and the perhaps related shadows of all the histories involving various individuals, I tend to think the most unifying approach is to avoid unified inter-org meetings, instead gather socially, and then the various pairs and such who work well together can socialize and later build on that. In other words, I think incremental, fragmentary trust/collaboration building is the way to lay a foundation from which broader comity and coordination can eventually evolve. And anyway, people like to party…
Sat-Sun is GNSO stuff, Tuesdays is for tribes and loud music, Wed gala, Thursday people are often moving into see the town mode. So Monday is always the main option, at least on the NC side. But if memory serves ALAC folks often do ISOC stuff then, no?
Anyway, with enough advanced warning I can probably sell Monday or Thursday night, or failing that just a end of the day drink in the hotel bar before people head to evening activities. Last time we waited until everyone already had plans.
So poke around and let me know?
BD
On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Certainly worth a try. I presume you are talking something more on the social side rather than a scheduled meeting - right?
I know that we have some sort of ALAC or At-Large event on Thursday evening, so that reduces the number of possible times evenings to Monday and Tuesday (haven't heard if there is the becoming standard unbearably-loud-music-night this time).
Alan
At 29/10/2010 08:58 AM, William Drake wrote:
Shall we try it again? It would seem particularly apt now that there's been various productive collaborations and some of the frictions are further in the past etc…
BD
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Hello from the IGF consultation at UN Geneva, On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:19 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
Hi, Bill, I just doodled. It seems an overwhelming majority prefers to Monday Evening after 8:00pm.
Given that the evening of constituency day is usually a time for the various tribes to do their thing, I would think Monday is better…? It looks from the Doodle like we have sufficient critical mass to plan on doing something. It would be helpful if the folks who've only sent messages to the list or who haven't replied could do the Doodle http://doodle.com/zd2vhg97tuayyhr5 so that we end up with a reasonably accurate head count and can then try to find a congenial restaurant etc. Cheers, Bill
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:30 PM, William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> wrote: Hi
Great Beau, will be good to catch up with bits unchanneled...
And thanks Wolf for posting the Doodle, which I've pointed NCSGers to. See you tomorrow at the UN for an altered state of reality...
Bill
On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Beau Brendler wrote:
count me in...time for a unified front...going through "channels" doesn't work very well, though it's taken me perilously too long to figure that out
-----Original Message-----
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Sent: Nov 18, 2010 4:14 AM To: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Hi
Alan and I chatted a little about whether we should try to organize an ALAC/NCSG social thing in Cartagena, but then I was traveling with spotty connectivity for a couple weeks and didn't follow up. NCSG had it's monthly meeting the other night and people expressed interest, so now I'm circling back to see whether there's interest in ALAC too? Of course, if a whole evening with dinner is too much to squeeze in, we could just do an end of the work day pre-dinner meet in the hotel bar, like 6-8pm or whatever.
Please cogitate and let me know?
Thanks
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
From: William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Date: October 30, 2010 8:40:54 AM GMT+02:00 To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: NCSG + ALAC => Cartagena
Well, there are in fact some things on which coordination would be logical, but given the recurrent difficulty of organizing something and the perhaps related shadows of all the histories involving various individuals, I tend to think the most unifying approach is to avoid unified inter-org meetings, instead gather socially, and then the various pairs and such who work well together can socialize and later build on that. In other words, I think incremental, fragmentary trust/collaboration building is the way to lay a foundation from which broader comity and coordination can eventually evolve. And anyway, people like to party…
Sat-Sun is GNSO stuff, Tuesdays is for tribes and loud music, Wed gala, Thursday people are often moving into see the town mode. So Monday is always the main option, at least on the NC side. But if memory serves ALAC folks often do ISOC stuff then, no?
Anyway, with enough advanced warning I can probably sell Monday or Thursday night, or failing that just a end of the day drink in the hotel bar before people head to evening activities. Last time we waited until everyone already had plans.
So poke around and let me know?
BD
On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Certainly worth a try. I presume you are talking something more on the social side rather than a scheduled meeting - right?
I know that we have some sort of ALAC or At-Large event on Thursday evening, so that reduces the number of possible times evenings to Monday and Tuesday (haven't heard if there is the becoming standard unbearably-loud-music-night this time).
Alan
At 29/10/2010 08:58 AM, William Drake wrote:
Shall we try it again? It would seem particularly apt now that there's been various productive collaborations and some of the frictions are further in the past etc…
BD
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