totally agree with Lilian. clair certainly is the nest to continue her worl=k. I would bet on Eunice, more expedient and with a clear capacity . I like Hanna very much but she is just incoming so some more years of experience will add the need experience to the position. Kisses Vanda From: lilian ivette de luque bruges via ALAC <alac@icann.org> Date: Thursday, 2 October 2025 at 20:47 To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>, ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations Dear Jonathan, thank you for the information. I believe LACRALO has two ALAC members with all the qualities and credentials to be members of Alt Plus. Claire had a long two-year term, and I think the opportunity should be given to another person from the LAC region. That's why I'm considering Eunice Pérez, a current member, or Hanna Frank, an incoming member. Either of them could be part of this committee. I leave this suggestion up to you to select one of them for that position. I believe we should honor the community's spirit of promoting new leadership. Regards, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges Obtener Outlook para Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:05:17 PM To: ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC] My ALT Nominations TL;DR My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th. Dear ALAC, I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair. The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM. As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot. This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions. I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions. • Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo • Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew • Europe - Natálie Terčová • Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ). Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting. This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!9U1VOmdg8rMhUCHyYtkOWsCHsB_FugS3Gm0bjYIGE9QGDytTvkDOPx2SzT-qwr_pO3xAHcIdUDv9flEy0naW_25HMSa7CL9MPg$> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...> [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>). Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English. Please note the following nomination schedule below. Nomination Schedule: • The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations need not be seconded. • Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner. 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Dear Jonathan, hi! We thank you for suggested set of names, definitely only great ones we see. I have a question - what is the fundamental difference between ALT and ALAC members now (as time goes by and everything changes we see in aproaches to manage the At-Large community), and why do we need to distinguish an internal group within the representatives of RALOs and the Region? Based on these details, ALAC definitely should first contact the RALO leaders, as this will be an internal decision of the RALO leadership to nominate candidates after discussion, as it involves rotation, engagement, motivation, and mobilization. ___ Best regards, Natalia Filina +7 906 722 5461 Moscow, Russia вс, 5 окт. 2025 г., 18:51 Amrita Choudhury via ALAC <alac@icann.org>:

As I am not an ALAC member, I will not comment on any of the candidates suggested as they are all good.

From the APRALO perspective, I wholeheartedly support the candidate suggested from our region.

However, I do agree with the concerns raised by Pari related to the process. These are very important. We should adopt and inculcate a transparent and bottom up approach.

Regards

Amrita

On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 at 20:17, Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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I completely agree with Pari, Nomination supposed to not like this approach. RALOs may put forward their capable person to the ALT. Shah On Sun, 5 Oct 2025, 8:47 pm Pari Esfandiari via ALAC, <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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All, I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5. Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly: - The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information. Greg EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW: *6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities * 6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC. 6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical. 6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT. 6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members. 6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM. 6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted. 6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical. 6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members. 3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region: 3.5.1 ALAC Chair; 3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT; 3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members; 3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives. 3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#_bookmark20> to 6.3 <#_bookmark22>. 3.7 The ALT Members: 3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead; 3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and 3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues. 17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections 17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM. 17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members. 17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations. 17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6. 17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one. 17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair. On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Dear All, I also support the nomination of Adebunmi and I am glad that he accepted it. Both Aziz and Raïhanath have previously served in this position, so it’s great to have members with fresh perspectives who can bring their experience, make valuable contributions and learn as well. Kindest regards Hadia Elminiawi مهندسة/ هادية المنياوى كبير خبراء - البنية التحتية والطيف الترددي الجهاز القومي لتنظيم الاتصالات القرية الذكية، طريق مصر اسكندرية الصحراوي تليفون: 20235344392 Eng. Hadia Elminiawi, M.Sc. Chief Expert - Infrastructure and Radio Spectrum Planning National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt (NTRA) Tel: 202 3534-4392 Email: Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Smart Village, Cairo/Alex Desert Road, Giza, Egypt 12577 www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.tra.gov.eg/> AFRALO Chairwoman & SSAC member Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)​​ From: Natalia Filina via ALAC <alac@icann.org> Sent: 06 October 2025 14:18 To: Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com>; Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com> Cc: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [External] [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations Dear Alan, Greg, thank you so much for the clarifications. We really should to do our homework and read the Bylaws, but sometimes it is more useful to ask and get clarifications from more experienced colleagues with links to the points - this mentoring way is great. Have a great week ahead to all! ___ Best regards, Natalia Filina +7 906 722 5461 Moscow, Russia пн, 6 окт. 2025 г. в 09:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>>: All, I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5. Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly: * The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. * With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. * All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). * The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). * The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." * Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. * Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. * I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. * As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. * Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. * I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information. Greg EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW: 6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities 6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC. 6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical. 6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT. 6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members. 6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM. 6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted. 6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical. 6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members. 3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region: 3.5.1 ALAC Chair; 3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT; 3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members; 3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives. 3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 to 6.3. 3.7 The ALT Members: 3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead; 3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and 3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues. 17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections 17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM. 17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members. 17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations. 17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6. 17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one. 17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair. On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large). As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends. The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken. In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken. Alan On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues, Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated. That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection. When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one. Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange. In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify. To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN. Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: TL;DR My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th. Dear ALAC, I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair. The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM. As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot. This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions. I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions. • Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo • Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew • Europe - Natálie Terčová • Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ). Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting. This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>). Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English. Please note the following nomination schedule below. Nomination Schedule: • The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations need not be seconded. • Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner. 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Lillian and Sergio, The initial email did not fully explain the make-up of the ALT. Please read my email earlier in this thread, where I clarified a number of points about the ALT (including its make-up) and copied relevant sections of the RoP. The ALAC Vice Chairs are automatically members of the ALT, so Claire (as a Vice Chair) is the LACRALO ALT member (whether she likes it or not). Jonathan (NARALO) and Justine (APRALO) are likewise automatically on the ALT. Since there is one seat per region, the only regions with available ALT positions are AFRALO and EURALO. Best regards, Greg On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 8:59 AM Vanda Scartezini <vanda@scartezini.org> wrote:

Congrats to all nominated to be part of the ALAC Alt! Wish all huge Success! Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPhone Sorry for typos

On 6 Oct 2025, at 09:40, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi via ALAC < alac@icann.org> wrote:



Dear All,

I also support the nomination of Adebunmi and I am glad that he accepted it. Both Aziz and Raïhanath have previously served in this position, so it’s great to have members with fresh perspectives who can bring their experience, make valuable contributions and learn as well.

Kindest regards

Hadia Elminiawi

مهندسة/ هادية المنياوى

كبير خبراء - البنية التحتية والطيف الترددي

الجهاز القومي لتنظيم الاتصالات

القرية الذكية، طريق مصر اسكندرية الصحراوي

تليفون: 20235344392

*Eng. Hadia Elminiawi, M.Sc.*

Chief Expert - Infrastructure and Radio Spectrum Planning

National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt (NTRA)

Tel: 202 3534-4392

Email: Hadia@tra.gov.eg

Smart Village, Cairo/Alex Desert Road, Giza, Egypt 12577

www.tra.gov.eg

*AFRALO Chairwoman & SSAC member *

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*From:* Natalia Filina via ALAC <alac@icann.org> *Sent:* 06 October 2025 14:18 *To:* Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com>; Alan Greenberg < greenberg.alan@gmail.com> *Cc:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC < alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [External] [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations

Dear Alan, Greg,

thank you so much for the clarifications. We really should to do our homework and read the Bylaws, but sometimes it is more useful to ask and get clarifications from more experienced colleagues with links to the points - this mentoring way is great.

Have a great week ahead to all!

___

Best regards,

Natalia Filina

+7 906 722 5461

Moscow, Russia

пн, 6 окт. 2025 г. в 09:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC <alac@icann.org

...

:

All,

I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.

Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly:

- The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information.

Greg

EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:

*6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities *

6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.

6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.

6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.

6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.

6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.

6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.

6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.

6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.

3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region:

3.5.1 ALAC Chair;

3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT;

3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members;

3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives.

3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#m_-302082185281879830_m_-74268737216018574__bookmark20> to 6.3 <#m_-302082185281879830_m_-74268737216018574__bookmark22>.

3.7 The ALT Members:

3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead;

3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and

3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues.

17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections

17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM.

17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.

17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations.

17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6.

17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one.

17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Hi Hadia, I support the nomination of Adebunmi and I’m glad he accepted. Just a small correction: I have never served in this position nor been a member. Best, Aziz Le lundi 6 octobre 2025 à 13:39:54 UTC+1, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi via ALAC <alac@icann.org> a écrit : <!--#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 p.yiv8608968722MsoNormal, #yiv8608968722 li.yiv8608968722MsoNormal, #yiv8608968722 div.yiv8608968722MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv8608968722 a:link, #yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8608968722 a:visited, #yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8608968722 pre {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";}#yiv8608968722 p.yiv8608968722msonormal0, #yiv8608968722 li.yiv8608968722msonormal0, #yiv8608968722 div.yiv8608968722msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722gmail-anegp0gi0b9av8jahpyh {}#yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722HTMLPreformattedChar {font-family:"Consolas", serif;}#yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722gmailsignatureprefix {}#yiv8608968722 span.yiv8608968722EmailStyle23 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv8608968722 .yiv8608968722MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 div.yiv8608968722WordSection1 {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 filtered {}#yiv8608968722 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv8608968722 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}--> Dear All,   I also support the nomination of Adebunmi and I am glad that he accepted it. Both Aziz and Raïhanath have previously served in this position, so it’s great to have members with fresh perspectives who can bring their experience, make valuable contributions and learn as well.   Kindest regards Hadia Elminiawi       مهندسة/ هادية المنياوى كبير خبراء - البنية التحتية والطيف الترددي الجهاز القومي لتنظيم الاتصالات القرية الذكية، طريق مصر اسكندرية الصحراوي تليفون: 20235344392   Eng. Hadia Elminiawi, M.Sc. Chief Expert - Infrastructure and Radio Spectrum Planning  National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt (NTRA) Tel: 202 3534-4392  Email: Hadia@tra.gov.eg  Smart Village, Cairo/Alex Desert Road, Giza, Egypt 12577 www.tra.gov.eg   AFRALO Chairwoman & SSAC member  Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)​​       From: Natalia Filina via ALAC <alac@icann.org> Sent: 06 October 2025 14:18 To: Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com>; Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com> Cc: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [External] [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations   Dear Alan, Greg, thank you so muchfor the clarifications. We really should to do our homework and read the Bylaws, but sometimes it is more useful to ask and get clarifications from more experienced colleagues with links to the points - this mentoring way is great. Have a great week ahead to all! ___ Best regards, Natalia Filina   +7 906 722 5461 Moscow, Russia     пн, 6 окт. 2025 г. в 09:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC <alac@icann.org>: All,   I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure.  It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules.  In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.   Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email.  Particularly: - The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information. Greg   EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:   6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities    6.1  Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.    6.2  The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.    6.3  Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.    6.4  All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.    6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.     6.6  Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.    6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.    6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.    3.5         TheALAC LeadershipTeam (ALT)is aregionally balancedgroup normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region: 3.5.1             ALACChair; 3.5.2             oneor twoVice-Chairs, the numberto beset atthe discretionof the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT; 3.5.3             twoor threenon-titled ALAC Members; 3.5.4             theALAC Liaisonsto ICANNSupporting Organizationsand Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.5             otherpeople maybe invitedby theChair to participateas advisorsto the ALT; 3.5.6             although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formallypart ofthe ALT. Decisionsof theALT are taken solelyby thefive regional representatives. 3.6          The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting withthe Chair and delegated ashe/she deemsappropriate orassigned bythe ALACas fullydescribed in Paragraphs 6.1 to 6.3. 3.7          TheALT Members: 3.7.1             workwith theALAC Chair toensure thatthe ALACcan focuson themost appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead; 3.7.2             support the ALACChair inthe overallmanagement ofthe ALAC; and 3.7.3             helpensure thatany decisionsmade onbehalf of theALAC aremade with due consideration of regional issues.   17.3     Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections 17.3.1       Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM. 17.3.2       The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.  17.3.3      The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations. 17.3.4       The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6. 17.3.5       A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one. 17.3.6       The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.     On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).   As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.    The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.    In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.    Alan             On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues, Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated. That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection. When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one. Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange. In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify. To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN. Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari   On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: TL;DR My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.   Dear ALAC,   I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.   The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.   As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.   This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.   I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions. ·         Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo ·         Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew ·         Europe - Natálie Terčová ·         Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig   Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).   Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.   This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3  ( ALAC Rules of Procedure - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com]).   Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.    Please note the following nomination schedule below.   Nomination Schedule:   ·         The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.   ·         Nominations need not be seconded.   ·         Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.   ·         Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]   ·         Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]   ·       In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner. 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Dear Aziz, Thank you for supporting Adebunmi’s nomination. I am confident that ALAC will benefit from his fresh perspectives and strong coordination with AFRALO. Thank you as well for your correction. That said, you have held several other At-Large and ALAC leadership positions where your contributions have been greatly valued. Let’s all which Adebunmi the very best in his new role. Kind regards Hadia Elminiawi مهندسة/ هادية المنياوى كبير خبراء - البنية التحتية والطيف الترددي الجهاز القومي لتنظيم الاتصالات القرية الذكية، طريق مصر اسكندرية الصحراوي تليفون: 20235344392 Eng. Hadia Elminiawi, M.Sc. Chief Expert - Infrastructure and Radio Spectrum Planning National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt (NTRA) Tel: 202 3534-4392 Email: Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Smart Village, Cairo/Alex Desert Road, Giza, Egypt 12577 www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.tra.gov.eg/> AFRALO Chairwoman & SSAC member Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)​​ From: Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr> Sent: 06 October 2025 21:36 To: Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com>; Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com>; Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com>; Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Cc: Jonathan Zuck <jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [External] Re: [ALAC] Re: [External] Re: My ALT Nominations Hi Hadia, I support the nomination of Adebunmi and I’m glad he accepted. Just a small correction: I have never served in this position nor been a member. Best, Aziz Le lundi 6 octobre 2025 à 13:39:54 UTC+1, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> a écrit : Dear All, I also support the nomination of Adebunmi and I am glad that he accepted it. Both Aziz and Raïhanath have previously served in this position, so it’s great to have members with fresh perspectives who can bring their experience, make valuable contributions and learn as well. Kindest regards Hadia Elminiawi مهندسة/ هادية المنياوى كبير خبراء - البنية التحتية والطيف الترددي الجهاز القومي لتنظيم الاتصالات القرية الذكية، طريق مصر اسكندرية الصحراوي تليفون: 20235344392 Eng. Hadia Elminiawi, M.Sc. Chief Expert - Infrastructure and Radio Spectrum Planning National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt (NTRA) Tel: 202 3534-4392 Email: Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Smart Village, Cairo/Alex Desert Road, Giza, Egypt 12577 www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.tra.gov.eg/> AFRALO Chairwoman & SSAC member Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)​​ From: Natalia Filina via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> Sent: 06 October 2025 14:18 To: Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanalac@gmail.com>>; Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com<mailto:greenberg.alan@gmail.com>> Cc: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [External] [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations Dear Alan, Greg, thank you so much for the clarifications. We really should to do our homework and read the Bylaws, but sometimes it is more useful to ask and get clarifications from more experienced colleagues with links to the points - this mentoring way is great. Have a great week ahead to all! ___ Best regards, Natalia Filina +7 906 722 5461 Moscow, Russia пн, 6 окт. 2025 г. в 09:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>>: All, I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5. Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly: * The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. * With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. * All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). * The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). * The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." * Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. * Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. * I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. * As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. * Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. * I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information. Greg EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW: 6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities 6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC. 6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical. 6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT. 6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members. 6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM. 6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted. 6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical. 6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members. 3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region: 3.5.1 ALAC Chair; 3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT; 3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members; 3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT; 3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives. 3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 to 6.3. 3.7 The ALT Members: 3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead; 3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and 3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues. 17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections 17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM. 17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members. 17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations. 17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6. 17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one. 17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair. On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large). As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends. The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken. In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken. Alan On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues, Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated. That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection. When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one. Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange. In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify. To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN. Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: TL;DR My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th. Dear ALAC, I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair. The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM. As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot. This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions. I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions. • Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo • Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew • Europe - Natálie Terčová • Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ). Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting. This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>). Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English. Please note the following nomination schedule below. Nomination Schedule: • The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations need not be seconded. • Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC. • Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] • In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner. 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Dear Greg, Alan, and Jonathan, Thank you for the clarification and for the helpful reminder about ALAC’s RoP. Jonathan made an excellent selection — Claire, along with the other proposed members, has my full support. Welcome aboard, Adebunmi! Best regards, Laura Margolis El lun, 6 oct 2025 a las 3:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC (< alac@icann.org>) escribió:

All,

I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.

Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly:

- The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information.

Greg

EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:

*6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities *

6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.

6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.

6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.

6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.

6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.

6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.

6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.

6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.

3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region:

3.5.1 ALAC Chair;

3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT;

3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members;

3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives.

3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark20> to 6.3 <#m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark22>.

3.7 The ALT Members:

3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead;

3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and

3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues.

17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections

17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM.

17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.

17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations.

17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6.

17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one.

17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Dear Alan, dear Greg, Thank you for your thoughtful comments and for grounding this discussion in the Rules of Procedure. I agree that the Chair’s nominations are procedurally permissible. However, while the RoPs allow the Chair, as one ALAC member among equals, to nominate, they are silent on granting any special role. *Section 17.3 makes it clear that* *the composition of the ALT is to be decided by the ALAC as a body*. If ALAC is to model true bottom-up governance, we must guard against even the perception of paternalism or concentration of influence. Our Rules of Procedure provide the framework, but it is how we apply them — with openness, equality, and respect for the collective authority of all members — that determines the integrity of our process. I also appreciate Alan’s point that it is important for the Chair to have a harmonious team, but diversity of vision is equally essential. True collaboration depends on balancing cohesion with openness to differing perspectives. My concern is not about feelings, procedure, or personalities — and certainly not a criticism of Jonathan. It is *about the principles on which our legitimacy rests.* Multistakeholderism, bottom-up participation, and consensus-building are not about efficiency but about inclusivity, transparency, and shared authority. These principles must guide not only ALT selections but all appointments and representative roles within ALAC. The Chair is elected by the ALAC to serve, not to lead unilaterally. It is our surety above all to ensure that power and legitimacy always rest with the 15 members collectively. Protecting that balance is essential for ALAC to remain a credible model of bottom-up governance within ICANN. With appreciation and respect, Pari Esfandiari ALAC Member On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 4:10 PM lilian ivette de luque bruges via ALAC < alac@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Greg and. All, thank you very much for this clear explanation you provided regarding the rules of procedure, statutes, etc. that govern the ALAC. The fact that they're there doesn't mean they're correct, and even less that we're quick to criticize and slow to inform ourselves. This is about consensus, because if they leave a window open for nominations, the most logical thing is for people to express themselves, because there's something called freedom of expression. It would have been great if, when these nominations were launched, the corresponding chapters of the rules of procedure that address this had been cited, to support them and remind them of them.

Best regards,

Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges

Obtener Outlook para Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Laura Margolis via ALAC <alac@icann.org> *Sent:* Monday, October 6, 2025 8:54:32 AM *To:* Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com> *Cc:* Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com>; Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations

Dear Greg, Alan, and Jonathan,

Thank you for the clarification and for the helpful reminder about ALAC’s RoP. Jonathan made an excellent selection — Claire, along with the other proposed members, has my full support.

Welcome aboard, Adebunmi!

Best regards,

Laura Margolis

El lun, 6 oct 2025 a las 3:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC (< alac@icann.org>) escribió:

All,

I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.

Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly:

- The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information.

Greg

EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:

*6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities *

6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.

6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.

6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.

6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.

6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.

6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.

6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.

6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.

3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region:

3.5.1 ALAC Chair;

3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT;

3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members;

3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives.

3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark20> to 6.3 <#m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark22> .

3.7 The ALT Members:

3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead;

3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and

3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues.

17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections

17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM.

17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.

17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations.

17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6.

17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one.

17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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While I'm just an observer at the moment, I would like to raise a procedural observation regarding this ALT selection/possible election schedule. Reviewing the current process, the ALT for the following term (e.g., 2025-2026) is elected before the AGM. This means that the selection/possible election is conducted by the current ALAC, which includes members whose terms may conclude at the AGM, while new members who will serve in the upcoming term have not yet assumed their roles. While I understand this schedule ensures continuity and operational readiness, it also introduces a governance concern, the leadership team for the next ALAC term is effectively being chosen without the participation of some of the members who will work with that team. This timing may unintentionally limit inclusivity and representation, especially where regional composition or community priorities may shift after the AGM. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 03:50, Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Alan, dear Greg,

Thank you for your thoughtful comments and for grounding this discussion in the Rules of Procedure. I agree that the Chair’s nominations are procedurally permissible. However, while the RoPs allow the Chair, as one ALAC member among equals, to nominate, they are silent on granting any special role. *Section 17.3 makes it clear that* *the composition of the ALT is to be decided by the ALAC as a body*. If ALAC is to model true bottom-up governance, we must guard against even the perception of paternalism or concentration of influence. Our Rules of Procedure provide the framework, but it is how we apply them — with openness, equality, and respect for the collective authority of all members — that determines the integrity of our process.

I also appreciate Alan’s point that it is important for the Chair to have a harmonious team, but diversity of vision is equally essential. True collaboration depends on balancing cohesion with openness to differing perspectives.

My concern is not about feelings, procedure, or personalities — and certainly not a criticism of Jonathan. It is *about the principles on which our legitimacy rests.* Multistakeholderism, bottom-up participation, and consensus-building are not about efficiency but about inclusivity, transparency, and shared authority. These principles must guide not only ALT selections but all appointments and representative roles within ALAC.

The Chair is elected by the ALAC to serve, not to lead unilaterally. It is our surety above all to ensure that power and legitimacy always rest with the 15 members collectively. Protecting that balance is essential for ALAC to remain a credible model of bottom-up governance within ICANN.

With appreciation and respect, Pari Esfandiari ALAC Member

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 4:10 PM lilian ivette de luque bruges via ALAC < alac@icann.org> wrote:

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Hi Greg and. All, thank you very much for this clear explanation you provided regarding the rules of procedure, statutes, etc. that govern the ALAC. The fact that they're there doesn't mean they're correct, and even less that we're quick to criticize and slow to inform ourselves. This is about consensus, because if they leave a window open for nominations, the most logical thing is for people to express themselves, because there's something called freedom of expression. It would have been great if, when these nominations were launched, the corresponding chapters of the rules of procedure that address this had been cited, to support them and remind them of them.

Best regards,

Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges

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Dear Greg, Alan, and Jonathan,

Thank you for the clarification and for the helpful reminder about ALAC’s RoP. Jonathan made an excellent selection — Claire, along with the other proposed members, has my full support.

Welcome aboard, Adebunmi!

Best regards,

Laura Margolis

El lun, 6 oct 2025 a las 3:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC (< alac@icann.org>) escribió:

All,

I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.

Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly:

- The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information.

Greg

EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:

*6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities *

6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.

6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.

6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.

6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.

6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.

6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.

6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.

6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.

3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region:

3.5.1 ALAC Chair;

3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT;

3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members;

3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives.

3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#m_-4197968565211429388_m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark20> to 6.3 <#m_-4197968565211429388_m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark22> .

3.7 The ALT Members:

3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead;

3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and

3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues.

17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections

17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM.

17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.

17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations.

17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6.

17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one.

17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Understanding that we can always consider changes, as I previously mentioned, the current RoP were the result of a very long and detailed debate. The issue of whether the ALAC Leadership should be selected before or after the AGM was an issue that was very carefully considered. In the end, there was general agreement that having the incoming ALAC make the selections was far less important than having the ability to plan and ensure that we do not waste time at and after the AGM. And there was general agreement that it was not expected that the results would be much different (partly because turnover in the ALAC is relatively slow). Alan On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 2:43 AM Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Aftab,

If you mean participation by way of being nominated, then that is not the case - Adebumni Akimbo is an incoming ALAC member.

If you mean participation by way of having the ability to nominate an eligible person, then this right is limited to the current ALAC members as provided by our governance document - the ALAC Rules of Procedure. Until one is seated as an ALAC member, one should not be able to exercise the functions of an ALAC member, which governance-wise, is correct.

Also, we conduct this process after the full slate of ongoing and incoming ALAC members are publicly known, so there is no unintentional limiting of inclusivity and representation, or any relevant shifting of regional composition or community priorities after the AGM.

Kind regards, Justine

On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 14:24, Aftab Siddiqui via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

While I'm just an observer at the moment, I would like to raise a procedural observation regarding this ALT selection/possible election schedule.

Reviewing the current process, the ALT for the following term (e.g., 2025-2026) is elected before the AGM. This means that the selection/possible election is conducted by the current ALAC, which includes members whose terms may conclude at the AGM, while new members who will serve in the upcoming term have not yet assumed their roles.

While I understand this schedule ensures continuity and operational readiness, it also introduces a governance concern, the leadership team for the next ALAC term is effectively being chosen without the participation of some of the members who will work with that team. This timing may unintentionally limit inclusivity and representation, especially where regional composition or community priorities may shift after the AGM.

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 03:50, Pari Esfandiari via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear Alan, dear Greg,

Thank you for your thoughtful comments and for grounding this discussion in the Rules of Procedure. I agree that the Chair’s nominations are procedurally permissible. However, while the RoPs allow the Chair, as one ALAC member among equals, to nominate, they are silent on granting any special role. *Section 17.3 makes it clear that* *the composition of the ALT is to be decided by the ALAC as a body*. If ALAC is to model true bottom-up governance, we must guard against even the perception of paternalism or concentration of influence. Our Rules of Procedure provide the framework, but it is how we apply them — with openness, equality, and respect for the collective authority of all members — that determines the integrity of our process.

I also appreciate Alan’s point that it is important for the Chair to have a harmonious team, but diversity of vision is equally essential. True collaboration depends on balancing cohesion with openness to differing perspectives.

My concern is not about feelings, procedure, or personalities — and certainly not a criticism of Jonathan. It is *about the principles on which our legitimacy rests.* Multistakeholderism, bottom-up participation, and consensus-building are not about efficiency but about inclusivity, transparency, and shared authority. These principles must guide not only ALT selections but all appointments and representative roles within ALAC.

The Chair is elected by the ALAC to serve, not to lead unilaterally. It is our surety above all to ensure that power and legitimacy always rest with the 15 members collectively. Protecting that balance is essential for ALAC to remain a credible model of bottom-up governance within ICANN.

With appreciation and respect, Pari Esfandiari ALAC Member

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 4:10 PM lilian ivette de luque bruges via ALAC < alac@icann.org> wrote:

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Hi Greg and. All, thank you very much for this clear explanation you provided regarding the rules of procedure, statutes, etc. that govern the ALAC. The fact that they're there doesn't mean they're correct, and even less that we're quick to criticize and slow to inform ourselves. This is about consensus, because if they leave a window open for nominations, the most logical thing is for people to express themselves, because there's something called freedom of expression. It would have been great if, when these nominations were launched, the corresponding chapters of the rules of procedure that address this had been cited, to support them and remind them of them.

Best regards,

Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges

Obtener Outlook para Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Laura Margolis via ALAC <alac@icann.org> *Sent:* Monday, October 6, 2025 8:54:32 AM *To:* Greg Shatan [NARALO] <gregshatanalac@gmail.com> *Cc:* Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com>; Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [ALAC] Re: My ALT Nominations

Dear Greg, Alan, and Jonathan,

Thank you for the clarification and for the helpful reminder about ALAC’s RoP. Jonathan made an excellent selection — Claire, along with the other proposed members, has my full support.

Welcome aboard, Adebunmi!

Best regards,

Laura Margolis

El lun, 6 oct 2025 a las 3:01, Greg Shatan [NARALO] via ALAC (< alac@icann.org>) escribió:

All,

I strongly encourage everyone engaged in this discussion to read the relevant parts of the Rules of Procedure. It's important to ground discussions like this in facts, rather than feelings. It probably would have been better to read the Rules first.... I think many of the comments here would have been answered or negated by the Rules. In particular, please look at Sections 6.1 and 6.4, and at Section 3.5.

Based on my review of the Rules, I have no problem with Jonathan's email. Particularly:

- The Chair and Vice Chairs are automatically part of the ALT. There is no decision to be made here, so no reason to criticize Jonathan's nominations. - With 2 Vice Chairs, there are only 2 remaining seats, which need to be from the 2 geographic regions not represented by the Chair/Vice Chairs. - All of the members must be ALAC members (ongoing or incoming). - The actual decision is made by the ALAC by consensus (or failing that, secret ballot). - The only explicit responsibility of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC." - Anyone can nominate an eligible candidate for the ALT, but there are not many eligible candidates -- in each of the 2 remaining regions, it has to be 1 of the 3 ALAC reps. Jonathan has invited everyone to make nominations, as required by the Rules. - Continuity in such roles is generally a positive thing, so nominating the ongoing EURALO rep on the ALT makes perfect sense. - I have no problem with Adebunmi Akinbo being nominated for the AFRALO seat, which is being vacated. - As described in the rules, there is no role for RALO leadership. - Given that the role of the ALT is to "support and collaborate with the Chair," it makes perfect sense for the Chair to suggest/nominate ALT members where there is a choice to be made. - I think people can be too quick to criticize and too slow to seek out information.

Greg

EXCERPTS FROM ROP BELOW:

*6. ALAC Leadership Team Requirements and Responsibilities *

6.1 Members of the ALT support and collaborate with the Chair in the overall administration and management of the ALAC.

6.2 The ALT shall have no other explicit responsibilities and is not empowered to make substantive decisions on the part of the ALAC unless urgency or confidentiality precludes consulting the ALAC. In such a case, the decision needs to be ratified with the ALAC as soon as practical.

6.3 Paragraph 6.2 notwithstanding, the ALAC may, from time to time, assign specific responsibilities or tasks to the ALT.

6.4 All ALT Members must be ALAC Members.

6.5 A person nominated for an ALT position does not need to be in the ALAC at the time of nomination but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the next AAGM.

6.6 Should a person selected as an ALT Member not be an ALAC Member after the upcoming AAGM, a new selection must be conducted.

6.7 ALT Members are expected to participate in all ALT meetings, both face-to-face and teleconferences, and to the extent that such participation from time to time may not be possible, provide advance notice of the planned absence where practical.

6.8 An ALAC Member occupying the role of Vice-Chair agrees to take on a heavier workload than the untitled ALT Members.

3.5 The ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) is a regionally balanced group normally comprised of five ALAC Members, one per ICANN region:

3.5.1 ALAC Chair;

3.5.2 one or two Vice-Chairs, the number to be set at the discretion of the Chair designate who will be presiding over the ALT;

3.5.3 two or three non-titled ALAC Members;

3.5.4 the ALAC Liaisons to ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees act as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.5 other people may be invited by the Chair to participate as advisors to the ALT;

3.5.6 although advisors are invited to participate in ALT meetings, they are not formally part of the ALT. Decisions of the ALT are taken solely by the five regional representatives.

3.6 The ALT has no ongoing explicit powers other than those resting with the Chair and delegated as he/she deems appropriate or assigned by the ALAC as fully described in Paragraphs 6.1 <#m_-147392958401243734_m_-2539898180779886396_m_-4197968565211429388_m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark20> to 6.3 <#m_-147392958401243734_m_-2539898180779886396_m_-4197968565211429388_m_-6756709703602830947_m_-7871575155491501540_x_m_-7748141668598907135__bookmark22> .

3.7 The ALT Members:

3.7.1 work with the ALAC Chair to ensure that the ALAC can focus on the most appropriate issues with the minimum of administrative overhead;

3.7.2 support the ALAC Chair in the overall management of the ALAC; and

3.7.3 help ensure that any decisions made on behalf of the ALAC are made with due consideration of regional issues.

17.3 Ordinary ALAC Leadership Team selections

17.3.1 Ordinary selections of the ALT Members will be held in connection with the AAGM.

17.3.2 The incoming Chair must be selected prior to the initiation of the selection process for the other ALT Members.

17.3.3 The Chair/Staff shall send via Approved Distribution Lists, a Selection Call for the ALT Members identifying the positions to be filled, giving the schedule and modalities of the selection process and requesting nominations (including self-nominations) by ALAC Members. The Selection Call will allow at least seven days for nominations.

17.3.4 The requirements to be met by Leadership Team nominees are listed in Paragraph 6.

17.3.5 A nominee must send a message of acceptance to the same list on which nominations were solicited within seven days of the close of nominations. The acceptance should be sent via Staff if the nominee does not have sending privileges to that list. An ALAC SoI must be completed prior to the close of the acceptance period if the nominee does not have one.

17.3.6 The selection of the ALT Members (excluding the Chair) shall be carried out prior to or during the AAGM using the standard ALAC process of Consensus if possible, and barring that, by secret ballot. If a vote is required for any position, the winner requires a majority of votes as per standard ALAC voting methodology. A voting method incorporating instant runoff may be used if deemed necessary. There must be no more than one person selected from each of the regions not represented by the Chair.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 6:12 PM Alan Greenberg via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

Allow me to comment wearing hats as a former ALAC Chair, and as the primary drafter of the ALAC Rules of Procedure (notice I say drafter not author, as the contents were hotly debated by a large group from the ALAC and At-Large).

As a former chair, I cannot overstate the importance of having an ALT that can work well and cooperatively with each other and the Chair. This is critically important this year, since it is likely Jonathan's last year as Chair (I have never met someone who could sustain more than 4 years!). It is crucial that the Chair has a well-oiled group on the ALT to make sure that goals are carried out before his term ends.

The RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

In terms of the formal rules, the RoP say that nominations may be made by any ALAC Member, and Jonathan is indeed an ALAC Member. Nothing prohibits other ALAC Members from making nominations (either self-nominations or for others). According to the RoP, if a final selection cannot be made by consensus, a vote can be taken.

Alan

On Sun, Oct 5, 2025 at 10:47 AM Pari Esfandiari via ALAC < alac@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Jonathan, dear colleagues,

Thank you, Jonathan, for initiating the call and for your continued commitment and leadership as we move into the final year of your term. The clarity of the process and your dedication to ensuring continuity within the ALT are much appreciated.

That said, I would like to raise a concern about the process, in the spirit of constructive reflection and our shared commitment to transparency and inclusivity. While the nominated colleagues are all capable and respected, beginning the process with a Chair-proposed slate—even when procedurally valid—creates the impression of a top-down appointment rather than a genuinely bottom-up selection.

When the Chair both initiates nominations and subsequently leads the ALT—where many key operational and strategic decisions are made—the process becomes heavily shaped from the outset. This dynamic can weaken the peer-based nature of ALAC’s governance and turn what should be open deliberation into what feels like endorsement rather than decision-making. Over time, this risks reducing the broader ALAC to a rubber-stamping body, rather than a genuinely participatory one.

Beyond process, this approach can also harm our internal culture. When nominations come directly from the Chair, members may feel pressured to endorse them out of loyalty or deference. Those who hesitate or propose alternatives can appear as if they are challenging the Chair or the individuals nominated, rather than simply exercising their right to participate. This dynamic can create unnecessary tension and division, pitting individuals against one another and discouraging open, collegial exchange.

In effect, a paternalistic style—however well-intentioned—can foster a culture of compliance rather than engagement. It undermines the equality of voice that is central to ALAC’s legitimacy and the broader multistakeholder model we are meant to exemplify.

To protect both the integrity of our processes and the health of our community, I believe we should encourage a fully open nomination process, where all qualified members feel equally empowered to step forward or nominate others, free of any implied hierarchy or expectation. This would help sustain a culture of trust, transparency, and genuine collaboration—the very values ALAC seeks to promote across ICANN.

Sincerely, Pari Esfandiari

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 1:06 AM Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:

TL;DR

My inclination is to the leave the ALT alone, for the next year, while asking Adebunmi Akinbo to take the seat vacated by Bukula Oronti. If you want to make different nominations, you have until October 15th.

Dear ALAC,

I would like to issue a call for nominations for the members of the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) for the period of 2025 AGM-2026 AGM, which will be my final year as ALAC Chair.

The terms of the 2025-2026 ALT will begin at the end of the 2025 Annual General Meeting (AGM) until the end of the 2026 AGM.

As the ALAC Chair, I will automatically take the North American ALT slot.

This call is to appoint the ALT slots for the four remaining regions.

I would like to nominate the following continuing or incoming ALAC Members for the open ALT positions.

· Africa – Adebunmi Akinbo

· Asia, Australia, and Pacific Islands – Justine Chew

· Europe - Natálie Terčová

· Latin America and Caribbean Islands – Claire Craig

Please let me know if you would like to nominate any other continuing or incoming ALAC Member by sending a message to the ALAC list (see: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ).

Nominations may be made by any current ALAC Member. Nominees need not be an ALAC Member at the time of the nominations but must have an expectation of being an ALAC Member after the completion of the upcoming ICANN84 Meeting.

This selection is carried out in accordance with the ALAC Rules of Procedure (ROPs) Section 17.3 ( ALAC Rules of Procedure <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%20RoP-Revision...> - Short URL https://tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08 [tinyurl.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-2022-08__;!!PtGJab4!...>).

Requirements for ALAC Members can be found in Section 6 of the ALAC RoPs. In short, ALT Members are expected to attend all ALAC meetings. I would also like ALT Members to attend the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group and the At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group meetings. ALT Members should be very responsive and thoughtful to e-mail requests and discussions. By mutual agreement, ALT Members may take on additional roles. Vice-Chairs are expected to take on proportionally larger responsibilities. All ALT activities are carried out solely in English.

Please note the following nomination schedule below.

*Nomination Schedule: *

· The nomination period is now open and will close on Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations need not be seconded.

· Nominations, other than self-nominations, must be accepted by Wednesday, 15 October 2025 at 23:59 UTC.

· Nominations and acceptances should be sent to the ALAC list [ alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· Staff will forward all acceptances to the ALAC-announce list [ alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org ]

· In accordance with ALAC RoPs 16.3, following the close of the nomination period and the acceptance or rejection of all nominations, Candidates from regions where the position is not contested will be declared to have won by acclamation. If there are multiple candidates from any region, the candidates, in conjunction with the ALAC, will be given the opportunity to resolve the situation. Failing that, a secret vote of the ALAC will decide the winner.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Hi Aftab, "*Conversely, incoming ALAC members, who will actually work with the new ALT, have no say in selecting that leadership. Potential misalignment of priorities and accountability, since outgoing members influence a structure they won’t be part of*." You would need to run the math on that probability, taking into consideration how ALAC members are selected, on a staggered basis, across all regions. Kind regards, Justine On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 16:15, Aftab Siddiqui <aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Justine,

...

If you mean participation by way of being nominated, then that is not the case - Adebumni Akimbo is an incoming ALAC member.

no - that's not my point.

...

If you mean participation by way of having the ability to nominate an eligible person, then this right is limited to the current ALAC members as provided by our governance document - the ALAC Rules of Procedure. Until one is seated as an ALAC member, one should not be able to exercise the functions of an ALAC member, which governance-wise, is correct.

I totally agree, technically, until new members are seated at the AGM, they do not hold formal ALAC position and/or rights and that's why I said I'm commenting as an observer. However, the concern here is not about procedural compliance, it’s about governance alignment and representation.

The current selection/election schedule means that the ALT for the next term (e.g. 2026) is chosen by members whose own terms end at the AGM i.e. by people who will not be part of the ALAC for the same year they are choosing leadership for.

Conversely, incoming ALAC members, who will actually work with the new ALT, have no say in selecting that leadership. Potential misalignment of priorities and accountability, since outgoing members influence a structure they won’t be part of.

But anyways, I'm just an observer.

...

Also, we conduct this process after the full slate of ongoing and incoming ALAC members are publicly known, so there is no unintentional limiting of inclusivity and representation, or any relevant shifting of regional composition or community priorities after the AGM.

I covered this part above.

Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui