I've added the ALAC list back onto the recipients. To be clear, I did not advocate a comment. I asked whether this had user implications. The only answer to date was from John Levine who noted that the only implication was that the drop of the Add Grace Period (AGP) would stop registrants from cancelling a domain if they made a mistake. Since in fact very few (if any) Registrars actually extend that privilege to registrants these days (the AGP was added when registrations tended to be done on the phone and errors were much more common), I do not consider that as a real impact. The issue will be raised as a possible comment on the ALAC call on Tuesday, so it would be good if any any further research were done prior to that time. If we have a problem with the timing, a public comment on the specifics of an RSEP is not, in my mind, the proper place to do it. It will just be made and largely ignored since those processing the comments have no discretion to do anything about it. If RSEP needs to be changed, we should approach it head on. The timing is one issue, and the lack of consideration of registrant rights is another that we might want to focus on. If we think it is of sufficient import to put time into it. Alan At 22/07/2017 11:42 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:

I agree with Olivier and Christopher and Alan.

Yes, the issue is tiny - the principle is not. There is nothing wrong with saying that our concern is not with these facts, but that there is so little time for a considered response. It takes a sentence or two - but that’s an important sentence or two.

Holly On 22 Jul 2017, at 11:43 pm, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<mailto:ocl@gih.com>ocl@gih.com> wrote:

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I understand that the case itself is minor, but isn't the principle itself important? If the principle is as Alan has described it, the case could create a precedent thus opening the door to other cases? Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 22/07/2017 10:19, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:

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Based in Belgium I naturally pay some attention to this one. However I think that John is right here.

Regards

CW

On 22 Jul 2017, at 09:07, John R. Levine <mailto:johnl@iecc.com><johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

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Is it out of line to formally reply that this is not enough time to deliver a quality response?

This is a tiny change to a pair of tiny TLDs, with about 6000 names each.

As far as I can tell, the main thing registrants will see is that if they register the wrong name, they can't get their money back, They still have auto-renew and redemption grace periods so inattentive registrants aren't going to lose their names.

This does not strike me as a good use of our limited time.

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