dear all,
I quite disagree with the explantion forwarded by Izumi.
I dont understand why any one will be partial.
What makes anyone think that a memeber of APRALO will be impartial.
In that case it can be agrued that a non member would not as much be interested in the affairs as would a member be (no offence to Siavash).
I think the explanation was totally uncalled for, taking into account the healthy functioning of the organisation so far.
I think all of us have organised ourself into this organisation for a noble purpose and biases should not be interpreted unless they are capable of being substantiated, afterall APRALO, ALAC and ICANN have one objective in mind the development of healthy and futuristic policies for the benefit of the 'registered name holder' and the end user and any
one capable of helping this objective is equal to another.
No intention to be offensive to anyone but i think the mail was not in the spirit of consensus and hormony.
God bless
Nirmol
ISVK India
"Bilal S. Beirm" <bbeirm@tagorg.com> wrote:
Agree with Izumi's comments.
Bilal
-----Original Message-----
From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Izumi
AIZU
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:38 AM
To: rajnesh@pacificit.org
Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed
to have some minor process questions.
I agree with Siavash
and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not
"representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from
ALAC to NomCom.
If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from
ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom
becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the
representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider
governance in my understanding.
I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom
members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations
to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision.
So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to
send all three candidates.
Thanks,
izumi
2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh :
> Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss]
NomCom 2008 Position
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800
> From: Christopher To
> To:
> CC: Gary Soo
> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503@pacificit.org>
>
>
>
> Rajnesh,
>
>
>
> The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Rajnesh D. Singh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM
> *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss
> *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position
>
>
>
>
Colleagues,
>
> The deadline for nominations has closed.
>
> We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below.
>
> **CANDIDATE**
>
>
>
> **NOMINATED BY**
>
>
>
> **ALS**
>
>
>
> **NOMINATION DATE**
>
> Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK)
>
>
>
> ISVK-India /
>
>
>
> ISVK-India /
>
>
>
> 14th August 2007
>
> Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS)
>
>
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr /
>
> Bilal Beiram
>
>
>
> ISOC-AU /
>
> AKMS
>
>
>
> 15th August 2007
>
> Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society)
>
>
>
> New Zealand Maori Internet Society /
> Franck Martin
>
>
>
> New Zealand Maori Internet Society
/
>
>
>
> 15th August 2007
>
>
> Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and
> Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has
accepted
> the nomination.
>
> At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus
that
> APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within
ALS'.
> If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and
functions
> could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have
2
> persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person
> nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'.
>
> If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference
must
> be between Nirmol and Karaitiana.
>
> I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate
> nomination. The other options are to offer both
candidates to ALAC and
> let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach
> this decision by the end of this coming weekend.
>
> I look forward to your input.
>
>
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