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   1. Re: APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual
      Applications (Satish Babu)


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From: Satish Babu <sbabu@ieee.org>
To: Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:27:18 +0530
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual Applications

Thanks Justine.

There is a due diligence process for all applications, ALS or individual member. However, for individual members, we tend to go ahead based on the self-declaration in order to make it a light-weight process.

As discussed in the GA, we will shortly be framing rules for all aspects of individual membership. The rigour of the due diligence process is something that we can consider while framing the rules.

satish

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:

Satish,

I understand and agree with you conceptually. However my question points to a step in the application process as opposed to the further clarification requested in evaluating an (incomplete?) application, which is what appears to have happened with Buddha.

Justine

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:12:07 +0530
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual Applications

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:

What happened to the requirement for each individual member applicant to submit an undertaking that he/she is not (or at least, no longer) a member of an affiliated ALS?

Justine,

That is the same self-declaration that I was referring to.

satish

 

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   1. Re: APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual
      Applications (Rajnesh Singh)
   2. Re: FW: Buddha Halder and APRALO Individual       Membership
      (Rajnesh Singh)
   3. Re: APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual
      Applications (Satish Babu)

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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:58:29 +0000
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual Applications

So I wonder out loud what is the process to ensure that an individual applicant is not already a member via an ALS?

This could get messy as one could belong to one of many ALS’ - like I do for example. Sometimes hard to track, be aware of.

Raj

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 1:38 pm, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Afifa

If Buddha is already a member of ISOC Kolkata then he cannot be an individual member? He should already be involved.

M :)

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Afifa Abbas <afifa.abbas118@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I met Buddha in Abu Dhabi and he seems very passionate. He reached out to me for an outreach.

I totally support their application.

Regards,

Afifa

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Pavan Budhrani * <pavan@namesphere.asia> wrote:

Please check the answers below, Staff there are some with a N/A, please help get that information

* Do they allow individual members?Yes
   Institutional members? N/A

* What is size of their membership at this time? What proportion of their membership are individuals?
(10) in Board of Trustees

(3) Audit Committee

(5) in Board of Directors

(35) other members”


* Can individual members assume leadership positions?

N/A

Also please help follow up with Buddha Haldar, Staff :)

Thanks so much!

Pavan



On 11/21/17 9:01 PM, Satish Babu wrote:

* Do they allow individual members? Institutional members?
* What is size of their membership at this time? What proportion of their membership are individuals?
* Can individual members assume leadership positions?

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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:09:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] FW: Buddha Halder and APRALO Individual Membership

Hi Evin,

I may be being a bit pedantic here, but your question to Buddha is not phrased correctly.

You ask:

“Are you currently a member of an ISOC or At-Large Structure (ALS)?”

ISOC is not an ALS. Individual ISOC chapters in their own right (and only some, not all) are.

Raj

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 10:50 pm, Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

 

Please see below. Buddha Halder does not qualify for APRALO Individual Membership at this time.

 

Thank you,

Evin

 

From: Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org>
Date: Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:47 PM
To: Buddha Halder <bhalder134@gmail.com>
Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: Please Confirm Membership Status

 

Dear Buddha,

 

Thank you for informing us. Unfortunately, this disqualifies you from APRALO Individual Membership.

 

If you become unaffiliated with the ALS in the future, please feel free to re-apply for individual membership.

 

In the meantime, we look forward to engaging you further within APRALO.

 

Kind Regards,

Evin

 

From: Buddha Halder <bhalder134@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:07 PM
To: Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org>
Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Subject: [Ext] Re: Please Confirm Membership Status

 

Hi,

I am an ISOC member. 

Regards,

Buddha 

Sent from my iPhone

On 27-Nov-2017, at 7:23 PM, Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Buddha,

 

Thanks again for your interest in applying as an Individual Member of APRALO. We need confirmation from you on one item before proceeding with your confirmation:

 

Are you currently a member of an ISOC or At-Large Structure (ALS)?

 

Only Individuals without ALS affiliation are allowed to apply as Individual Members. Please let us know as soon as possible.

 

Thank you!

 

Evin Ashley Erdoğdu

AC/SO and Policy Support
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

 

 

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 18:56:45 +0530
Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Application for new ALS and Individual Applications

Thanks Rajnesh.

The current mechanism is a self-declaration by the applicant. We have been finding that this doesn't always work. As you have pointed out, it is not always easy to keep track of the affiliations of organizations that a person is a member of. We will consider revising the wording or providing an example.

satish
 

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Rajnesh Singh <rajnesh.singh@gmail.com> wrote:

So I wonder out loud what is the process to ensure that an individual applicant is not already a member via an ALS?

This could get messy as one could belong to one of many ALS’ - like I do for example. Sometimes hard to track, be aware of.

Raj

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 at 1:38 pm, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Afifa

If Buddha is already a member of ISOC Kolkata then he cannot be an individual member? He should already be involved.

M :)

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Afifa Abbas <afifa.abbas118@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I met Buddha in Abu Dhabi and he seems very passionate. He reached out to me for an outreach.

I totally support their application.

Regards,

Afifa

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Pavan Budhrani * <pavan@namesphere.asia> wrote:

Please check the answers below, Staff there are some with a N/A, please help get that information

* Do they allow individual members?Yes
   Institutional members? N/A

* What is size of their membership at this time? What proportion of their membership are individuals?
(10) in Board of Trustees

(3) Audit Committee

(5) in Board of Directors

(35) other members”


* Can individual members assume leadership positions?

N/A

Also please help follow up with Buddha Haldar, Staff :)

Thanks so much!

Pavan



On 11/21/17 9:01 PM, Satish Babu wrote:

* Do they allow individual members? Institutional members?
* What is size of their membership at this time? What proportion of their membership are individuals?
* Can individual members assume leadership positions?

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