REMINDER: APRALO Teleconference Tuesday, 25 January 2011 @ 05:00 UTC
Dear All, The next APRALO teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday, 25 January 2011 at 0500 UTC. The agenda and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+25.01.2011+Teleconference Adobe Connect Room: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/apralo2011janjune <http://icann.adobeconnect.com/apralo2011janjune/> If you are unable to attend the call please send an email indicating your absence and we will note this information on the agenda. If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org. -- Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff
As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the Geographic Regions Review Working Group Regards Will Tibben---
Thank you, Will, for kindly posting this important think piece to the list, which is just timely for ICANN Geo. Region Review. Also thanks to Ms. Maureen Hilyard. We do see your concerns: "The Pacific islands are frequently grouped with Asia – within which it has no historical affiliation and where the needs are so different that the Pacific interests are often not considered when there is any representation required." Hong On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the Geographic Regions Review Working Group
Regards
Will Tibben--- _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
I haven't paid enough attention to the Geo wg... but I wonder if there is room for sub-regions. One of the implications of geo regions is of course the distribution of e.g. board members and other aspects in the policy development and decision making processes... sub-regions may allow us to further develop the framework... Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:40 PM To: William Tibben Cc: apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] pacific propsoal for a spearate Small Island Grouping
Thank you, Will, for kindly posting this important think piece to the list, which is just timely for ICANN Geo. Region Review. Also thanks to Ms. Maureen Hilyard.
We do see your concerns:
"The Pacific islands are frequently grouped with Asia – within which it has no historical affiliation and where the needs are so different that the Pacific interests are often not considered when there is any representation required."
Hong
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the Geographic Regions Review Working Group
Regards
Will Tibben--- _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Yes, I think there is some value in considering the idea of sub regions. However, the SIDS (Small Island Developing States) group - when and if it is formed - will cover both Pacific and Carribean effectively spanning 2 RALO groups. Will On 25/01/11 8:24 PM, "Edmon" <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote: I haven't paid enough attention to the Geo wg... but I wonder if there is room for sub-regions. One of the implications of geo regions is of course the distribution of e.g. board members and other aspects in the policy development and decision making processes... sub-regions may allow us to further develop the framework... Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:40 PM To: William Tibben Cc: apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] pacific propsoal for a spearate Small Island Grouping
Thank you, Will, for kindly posting this important think piece to the list, which is just timely for ICANN Geo. Region Review. Also thanks to Ms. Maureen Hilyard.
We do see your concerns:
"The Pacific islands are frequently grouped with Asia - within which it has no historical affiliation and where the needs are so different that the Pacific interests are often not considered when there is any representation required."
Hong
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the Geographic Regions Review Working Group
Regards
Will Tibben--- _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
I would like to share here what Cheryl shared during the meeting. There is a certain amount of overhead agreement required to go this way. If we can agree to making sub-groups under APRALO for the SIDS and the Arab Region AR, under APRALO facilitate them to appoint their structure/leadership/operating articles, there would be speed for this under ALAC and of course APRALO instead of putting this through a much longer process at the ICANN level. This is sort of a short-cut suggestion. Within this proposal suggestion that will be an APRALO proposal to ALAC and should ALAC approve it, APRALO can appoint two sub-regions APRALO-SIDS and APRALO-AR. Both the sub-groups can have then their own leadership out of which the Chair or President or Director (any form they choose to be suitable for them) will be present in APRALO to have issues and processes moved up, presented and completed. The sub-groups can have their own secretariats and participate with the ALAC RALO Secretariats' without the need to go through APRALO for this process. SIDS and AR can also have their showcases under APRALO. APRALO within this model would give equal weight to concerns and issues from these sub-regions and move them forward to ALAC. I put a lot of thought into this and this proposal seems to be very workable without the need to shake anything upwards. It also reduces the time required to get such an idea moving forward. However, I have not been able to draw out how APRALO's budget would be affected this way because we will need budget for getting atleast 4 new members to ICANN meetings etc. This is a touchy issue and I don't have the experience to deal with this at this point in time and will require some expert guidance in the event the above proposal is worth a consideration. -- Fouad On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:09 AM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
Yes, I think there is some value in considering the idea of sub regions.
However, the SIDS (Small Island Developing States) group - when and if it is formed - will cover both Pacific and Carribean effectively spanning 2 RALO groups.
Will
On 25/01/11 8:24 PM, "Edmon" <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
I haven't paid enough attention to the Geo wg... but I wonder if there is room for sub-regions. One of the implications of geo regions is of course the distribution of e.g. board members and other aspects in the policy development and decision making processes... sub-regions may allow us to further develop the framework... Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:40 PM To: William Tibben Cc: apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] pacific propsoal for a spearate Small Island Grouping
Thank you, Will, for kindly posting this important think piece to the list, which is just timely for ICANN Geo. Region Review. Also thanks to Ms. Maureen Hilyard.
We do see your concerns:
"The Pacific islands are frequently grouped with Asia - within which it has no historical affiliation and where the needs are so different that the Pacific interests are often not considered when there is any representation required."
Hong
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the Geographic Regions Review Working Group
Regards
Will Tibben--- _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa
participants (5)
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Edmon -
Fouad Bajwa -
Hong Xue -
Marilyn Vernon -
William Tibben