Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] + reminder on teleconf this week]
Having thought long and hard about it the last few days, I have decided to withdraw from candidacy for the Nominating Committee and I hereby notify you to that effect. I will also inform my ALAC colleagues in due time that I do not wish to be considered for the position. I put up my name partly because I knew how hard it was in the past to find someone for the job, partly because I thought I had the over-all necessary qualifications, and also because it was a way of keeping in touch with ICANN. Now that I see enthusiasm for the position among newcomers, I should step aside and let new blood get into the system. I wish to thank all specially Cheryl and Bilal for their support. Regards, Siavash
We have heard from several ALS' that submitting all 3 names to ALAC is acceptable.
This being a case of "rough consensus", I will ask our ALAC Reps to forward the names to ALAC late next week. I think it would be good if the 3 candidates can provide a short bio to our ALAC Reps to support their respective case for NomCom selection, and I would suggest you do this by say Wednesday 29th.
Also, a reminder that we have a teleconference scheduled for Tuesday 28th - see https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 If you have any items you wish to put on the agenda, please do so at the link above and join the meeting to elaborate/discuss.
Regards, R.
David Farrar wrote:
I am happy with all names to go forward.
DPF
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: 23 August 2007 6:57 p.m. To: rajnesh@pacificit.org Cc: 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
Dear all, I am in agreement with Cheryl, Izumi and Rajnesh!
Charles ISOC HK
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rajnesh D. Singh Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:00 AM Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
We have views from 3 ALS' (Cheryl, Izumi, Me) thus far that sending all names for consideration is a good way forward. I would like to hear from at least another 3 or 4, so we have "rough consensus".
Alternatively, I would like to hear objections to this.
Izumi - just a minor correction to be pedantic. 2 candidates had process issues. I cannot see a process issue with Karaitiana. He self-nominated and had a seconder before the deadline.
Regards, R.
Izumi AIZU wrote:
In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed to have some minor process questions.
I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from ALAC to NomCom.
If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider governance in my understanding.
I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision.
So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to send all three candidates.
Thanks,
izumi
2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh@pacificit.org>:
Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 From: Christopher To <christopher@hkiac.org> To: <rajnesh@pacificit.org> CC: Gary Soo <email@garysoochambers.hk> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503@pacificit.org>
Rajnesh,
The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
Christopher
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*From:* apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Rajnesh D. Singh *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position
Colleagues,
The deadline for nominations has closed.
We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below.
**CANDIDATE**
**NOMINATED BY**
**ALS**
**NOMINATION DATE**
Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK)
ISVK-India /
ISVK-India /
14th August 2007
Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr /
Bilal Beiram
ISOC-AU /
AKMS
15th August 2007
Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society)
New Zealand Maori Internet Society / Franck Martin
New Zealand Maori Internet Society /
15th August 2007
Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has accepted the nomination.
At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus that APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within ALS'. If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and functions could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have 2 persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'.
If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference must be between Nirmol and Karaitiana.
I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach this decision by the end of this coming weekend.
I look forward to your input.
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Dear Siavash, As I know to be qualify to be the member of nomination committee, he/she must be familiar to ICANN process. He/she must be senior enough to make an optimal decision during the tough competition or arguments. Hopefully, he/she have the ability to be neutral and overlook many things from different angles. And you are such a person. I wish you remain as a candidate. Best Regards, Kuo Wu -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Siavash Shahshahani Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:55 AM To: apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] + reminder on teleconf this week] Having thought long and hard about it the last few days, I have decided to withdraw from candidacy for the Nominating Committee and I hereby notify you to that effect. I will also inform my ALAC colleagues in due time that I do not wish to be considered for the position. I put up my name partly because I knew how hard it was in the past to find someone for the job, partly because I thought I had the over-all necessary qualifications, and also because it was a way of keeping in touch with ICANN. Now that I see enthusiasm for the position among newcomers, I should step aside and let new blood get into the system. I wish to thank all specially Cheryl and Bilal for their support. Regards, Siavash
We have heard from several ALS' that submitting all 3 names to ALAC is acceptable.
This being a case of "rough consensus", I will ask our ALAC Reps to forward the names to ALAC late next week. I think it would be good if the 3 candidates can provide a short bio to our ALAC Reps to support their respective case for NomCom selection, and I would suggest you do this by say Wednesday 29th.
Also, a reminder that we have a teleconference scheduled for Tuesday 28th - see https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 If you have any items you wish to put on the agenda, please do so at the link above and join the meeting to elaborate/discuss.
Regards, R.
David Farrar wrote:
I am happy with all names to go forward.
DPF
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: 23 August 2007 6:57 p.m. To: rajnesh@pacificit.org Cc: 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
Dear all, I am in agreement with Cheryl, Izumi and Rajnesh!
Charles ISOC HK
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rajnesh D. Singh Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:00 AM Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
We have views from 3 ALS' (Cheryl, Izumi, Me) thus far that sending all names for consideration is a good way forward. I would like to hear from at least another 3 or 4, so we have "rough consensus".
Alternatively, I would like to hear objections to this.
Izumi - just a minor correction to be pedantic. 2 candidates had process issues. I cannot see a process issue with Karaitiana. He self-nominated and had a seconder before the deadline.
Regards, R.
Izumi AIZU wrote:
In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed to have some minor process questions.
I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from ALAC to NomCom.
If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider governance in my understanding.
I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision.
So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to send all three candidates.
Thanks,
izumi
2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh@pacificit.org>:
Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 From: Christopher To <christopher@hkiac.org> To: <rajnesh@pacificit.org> CC: Gary Soo <email@garysoochambers.hk> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503@pacificit.org>
Rajnesh,
The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
Christopher
*From:* apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Rajnesh D. Singh *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position
Colleagues,
The deadline for nominations has closed.
We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below.
**CANDIDATE**
**NOMINATED BY**
**ALS**
**NOMINATION DATE**
Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK)
ISVK-India /
ISVK-India /
14th August 2007
Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr /
Bilal Beiram
ISOC-AU /
AKMS
15th August 2007
Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society)
New Zealand Maori Internet Society / Franck Martin
New Zealand Maori Internet Society /
15th August 2007
Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has accepted the nomination.
At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus that APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within ALS'. If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and functions could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have 2 persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'.
If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference must be between Nirmol and Karaitiana.
I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach this decision by the end of this coming weekend.
I look forward to your input.
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I am also quite in the same thought as Kuo-Wei wrote. Unlike other positions of ICANN, NomCom is focusing on just recruiting and putting them to the positions, not policy involvement (at least directly). And your experience and broad view, independent insights and warm personality all fit quite well to the required conditions for a NomCom member. I hope you would remain there to be considered. izumi 2007/8/28, Kuo-Wei Wu <kwu@wu-city.com>:
Dear Siavash,
As I know to be qualify to be the member of nomination committee, he/she must be familiar to ICANN process. He/she must be senior enough to make an optimal decision during the tough competition or arguments. Hopefully, he/she have the ability to be neutral and overlook many things from different angles. And you are such a person. I wish you remain as a candidate.
Best Regards,
Kuo Wu
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Siavash Shahshahani Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:55 AM To: apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position] + reminder on teleconf this week]
Having thought long and hard about it the last few days, I have decided to withdraw from candidacy for the Nominating Committee and I hereby notify you to that effect. I will also inform my ALAC colleagues in due time that I do not wish to be considered for the position. I put up my name partly because I knew how hard it was in the past to find someone for the job, partly because I thought I had the over-all necessary qualifications, and also because it was a way of keeping in touch with ICANN. Now that I see enthusiasm for the position among newcomers, I should step aside and let new blood get into the system. I wish to thank all specially Cheryl and Bilal for their support. Regards, Siavash
We have heard from several ALS' that submitting all 3 names to ALAC is acceptable.
This being a case of "rough consensus", I will ask our ALAC Reps to forward the names to ALAC late next week. I think it would be good if the 3 candidates can provide a short bio to our ALAC Reps to support their respective case for NomCom selection, and I would suggest you do this by say Wednesday 29th.
Also, a reminder that we have a teleconference scheduled for Tuesday 28th - see https://st.icann.org/asiapac/index.cgi?28_august_2007 If you have any items you wish to put on the agenda, please do so at the link above and join the meeting to elaborate/discuss.
Regards, R.
David Farrar wrote:
I am happy with all names to go forward.
DPF
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: 23 August 2007 6:57 p.m. To: rajnesh@pacificit.org Cc: 'Asia-Pacific Discuss' Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
Dear all, I am in agreement with Cheryl, Izumi and Rajnesh!
Charles ISOC HK
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rajnesh D. Singh Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:00 AM Cc: Asia-Pacific Discuss Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [Fwd: RE: NomCom 2008 Position]
We have views from 3 ALS' (Cheryl, Izumi, Me) thus far that sending all names for consideration is a good way forward. I would like to hear from at least another 3 or 4, so we have "rough consensus".
Alternatively, I would like to hear objections to this.
Izumi - just a minor correction to be pedantic. 2 candidates had process issues. I cannot see a process issue with Karaitiana. He self-nominated and had a seconder before the deadline.
Regards, R.
Izumi AIZU wrote:
In summary, I am OK with all THREE candidates, even though each seemed to have some minor process questions.
I agree with Siavash and also Cheryl that NomCom position is not "representative of ALS", thus Siavash is perfect for candidate from ALAC to NomCom.
If this NomCom members are also representative of RALO and hence from ALS, the very reason why we have NomCom becomes undermined. The intentionally setup NomCom outside the representation mechanism to keep sort of neutrality and wider governance in my understanding.
I also like to remind that the final body to recommend the NomCom members is ALAC, not RALOs, globaly. So APRAL can make recommendations to ALAC, but we are not in the postion to make the FINAL decision.
So, I woudl agree with Cheryl who just sent the list her suggestion to send all three candidates.
Thanks,
izumi
2007/8/23, Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh@pacificit.org>:
Note the following re: Nirmol's nomination.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:59:51 +0800 From: Christopher To <christopher@hkiac.org> To: <rajnesh@pacificit.org> CC: Gary Soo <email@garysoochambers.hk> References: <46CBE1AB.9080503@pacificit.org>
Rajnesh,
The HKIF supports Nirmol Agarwal on this matter.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
Christopher
*From:* apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Rajnesh D. Singh *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss *Subject:* [APAC-Discuss] NomCom 2008 Position
Colleagues,
The deadline for nominations has closed.
We have 3 candidates nominated thus far, summarised below.
**CANDIDATE**
**NOMINATED BY**
**ALS**
**NOMINATION DATE**
Nirmol Agarwal (ISVK)
ISVK-India /
ISVK-India /
14th August 2007
Siavash Shahshahani (No ALS)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr /
Bilal Beiram
ISOC-AU /
AKMS
15th August 2007
Karaitiana Taiuru (New Zealand Maori Internet Society)
New Zealand Maori Internet Society / Franck Martin
New Zealand Maori Internet Society /
15th August 2007
Out of the above 3 candidates, 2 were self-nominations (Nirmol and Karaitiana). Siavash has not indicated to the list that he has accepted the nomination.
At the Bali Meeting earlier this year, there was general consensus that APRALO roles and functions would be handled by members from within ALS'. If there was no interest from within ALS' then such roles and functions could be offered to persons outside the ALS'. In this instance we have 2 persons representing ALS' interested in the position, and 1 person nominated from outside the APRALO ALS'.
If we stick to the consensus agreed to in Bali, then our preference must be between Nirmol and Karaitiana.
I now seek your guidance on reaching consensus on our candidate nomination. The other options are to offer both candidates to ALAC and let them pick one, or we vote and decide. Note that we need to reach this decision by the end of this coming weekend.
I look forward to your input.
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Siavash Shahshahani