Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Individual membership form for review, comments and approval- Deadline April 26 - 23 UTC
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are unaffiliated with any ALS. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used. You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs. Alan At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" <<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, Iâd slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, Iâm happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <<mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org>silvia.vivanco@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALOâs Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
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+1 On Apr 18, 2017 8:24 AM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are *unaffiliated with any ALS*. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+ of+Procedures+Review+-+Individual+membership
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org
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Thanks to all who worked on the application form for individual memberships. I didn't check NARALO's rules for individual members, but does the description in the form captures all the rights of these individuals? Are individual member have the same status or rights in RALOs as ALSes? One of my concerns is the weakening of the ALS's on the national level. Also the point was mentioned by Holly, of the possibility of having some kind of entities (as in ISOC special interest groups across boarders within the region) that represents individual members. I believe the above points are critical on the long run, better to be given more thoughts in advance before launching the acceptance of applications from the individual members. On Apr 18, 2017 05:39, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are *unaffiliated with any ALS*. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used. You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs. Alan At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote: I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right. On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process. A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here) First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues. My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it. Otherwise, I’m happy. I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org > wrote: Dear APRALO members, On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience. https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+ of+Procedures+Review+-+Individual+membership Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules. Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC. Thank you! 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Dear all, Thanks to everyone who has responded. Here are a few clarifications: 1. Unaffiliated Individual Members (individual members who are not affiliated to existing APRALO ALSes) have been part of our RoPs from 2014. The concept was introduced largely as a mechanism for admitting interested individuals who either had no ALSes near them, or were unable for any reason to operate through existing ALSes. We had already started admitting UIMs from around 2015. Therefore, this form does not reflect any change in policy, only in procedure. As explained in the March APRALO monthly call, the main reason for introducing a new format is to gather additional information about the individuals who apply for joining us (APRALO's existing admission process is almost automatic once the applicant provides a self-declared affirmation of required criteria). 2. The RoPs state that all UIMs jointly select one representative (Section 27.5.2.6-8) to represent their positions within APRALO. We plan to create the procedure for this process before our GA, scheduled for Oct 2017 (of course, this may be subject to the outcome of the At-Large Review that is currently in its final stage). 3. On the matter of the application form, we had originally planned to do it as a web page (form), but as ICANN's web team is busy at this time, we couldn't get it done. In the meantime, we will be sending the form as a PDF file to individual membership applicants, which they can fill up and return. When we do the web version, we will move out the long list of topics as a pop-up window, without cluttering up the main form (Thanks to Silvia and other Staff for their help!). 4. We plan to incorporate any major suggestions from the community and operationalize the form from the APRALO Monthly call on 27 April. With kind regards, satish (travelling, email responses may be delayed) On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to all who worked on the application form for individual memberships. I didn't check NARALO's rules for individual members, but does the description in the form captures all the rights of these individuals? Are individual member have the same status or rights in RALOs as ALSes? One of my concerns is the weakening of the ALS's on the national level. Also the point was mentioned by Holly, of the possibility of having some kind of entities (as in ISOC special interest groups across boarders within the region) that represents individual members.
I believe the above points are critical on the long run, better to be given more thoughts in advance before launching the acceptance of applications from the individual members.
On Apr 18, 2017 05:39, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are *unaffiliated with any ALS*. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+ Procedures+Review+-+Individual+membership
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org
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I also support this initiative . *Regards / Jahangir* On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Satish Babu <sb@inapp.com> wrote:
Dear all,
Thanks to everyone who has responded. Here are a few clarifications:
1. Unaffiliated Individual Members (individual members who are not affiliated to existing APRALO ALSes) have been part of our RoPs from 2014. The concept was introduced largely as a mechanism for admitting interested individuals who either had no ALSes near them, or were unable for any reason to operate through existing ALSes. We had already started admitting UIMs from around 2015. Therefore, this form does not reflect any change in policy, only in procedure.
As explained in the March APRALO monthly call, the main reason for introducing a new format is to gather additional information about the individuals who apply for joining us (APRALO's existing admission process is almost automatic once the applicant provides a self-declared affirmation of required criteria).
2. The RoPs state that all UIMs jointly select one representative (Section 27.5.2.6-8) to represent their positions within APRALO. We plan to create the procedure for this process before our GA, scheduled for Oct 2017 (of course, this may be subject to the outcome of the At-Large Review that is currently in its final stage).
3. On the matter of the application form, we had originally planned to do it as a web page (form), but as ICANN's web team is busy at this time, we couldn't get it done. In the meantime, we will be sending the form as a PDF file to individual membership applicants, which they can fill up and return. When we do the web version, we will move out the long list of topics as a pop-up window, without cluttering up the main form (Thanks to Silvia and other Staff for their help!).
4. We plan to incorporate any major suggestions from the community and operationalize the form from the APRALO Monthly call on 27 April.
With kind regards,
satish (travelling, email responses may be delayed)
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to all who worked on the application form for individual memberships. I didn't check NARALO's rules for individual members, but does the description in the form captures all the rights of these individuals? Are individual member have the same status or rights in RALOs as ALSes? One of my concerns is the weakening of the ALS's on the national level. Also the point was mentioned by Holly, of the possibility of having some kind of entities (as in ISOC special interest groups across boarders within the region) that represents individual members.
I believe the above points are critical on the long run, better to be given more thoughts in advance before launching the acceptance of applications from the individual members.
On Apr 18, 2017 05:39, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are *unaffiliated with any ALS*. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I†d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+P rocedures+Review+-+Individual+membership
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
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+1 Alan From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> To: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Cc: Satish Babu <sb@inapp.com>; "apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Individual membership form for review, comments and approval- Deadline April 26 - 23 UTC The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individualmembers who are unaffiliated with any ALS. In the NARALO rules,they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but oncethey join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has beenused. You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of acontradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" withthe group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before,but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a categoryin all RALOs. Alan At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote: I am not interested anymore inbecoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead otherparts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was firstaccepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become anobserver cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have therules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated memberis an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member.... The term just doesn't sound right. On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche"<h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: - Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we needto finalise this process. - A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here) - First, I think we have captured the main comments people havemade. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I�dslightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their pastexperience/activites or whatever in representing the publicinterest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentenceto ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want aclear statement of their interests/involvement in publicinterest/consumer issues. - My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should weshorten it. - Otherwise, I’m happy. - I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow othermodels in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can waituntil we have sufficient numbers to worry about - Holly - On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco<silvia.vivanco@icann.org> wrote: - Dear APRALO members, - - On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind toreview the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted onthe following wiki page and also attached to this email for yourconvenience. - - https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review... - - Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website,applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it toAt-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members ofAPRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALOrules. - - Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki pageif possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC. - - Thank you! - - Kind regards, - - Silvia - - Silvia Vivanco - Manager, At Large Regional Affairs - ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - www.icann.org - - - <APRALO Form - Signable FINAL April2017.pdf>_______________________________________________ - APAC-Discuss mailing list - APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org - https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss - Homepage for the region:http://www.apralo.org - _______________________________________________ - APAC-Discuss mailing list - APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org - https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss - Homepage for the region:http://www.apralo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1;DM5PR03MB2714;27:tsKquhkqw56ZuSetYDHHhVqkqkEI3AAn+8S3IEc3o9C4WeLWdx43Ob0ZD5GJN/gAX8Om68LO/sDZft2fdgDDSXsFuWp9kSa+8CodpAOWtr1IcUnUBW+eOa25poMRR0pHSDKaWD1fVlvkIwe1irsjMw== X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(20160514016)(520000050)(520002050)(750028); _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region:http://www.apralo.org_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
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On Apr 18, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Aris Ignacio via APAC-Discuss <apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
+1 Alan
From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> To: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Cc: Satish Babu <sb@inapp.com>; "apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO Individual membership form for review, comments and approval- Deadline April 26 - 23 UTC
The term originated with the North American RALO which has had individual members who are unaffiliated with any ALS. In the NARALO rules, they are referred to as "unaffiliated individuals", but once they join NARALO, the term "unaffiliated member" has been used.
You are correct that "unaffiliated member" is somewhat of a contradiction in that members are implicitly "affiliated" with the group of which they are a member. It has never been mentioned before, but perhaps it needs to be rethought as we move to having such a category in all RALOs.
Alan
At 17/04/2017 09:38 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
I am not interested anymore in becoming an Apralo member because I have been affiliated and lead other parts of this community. But my question is how And why would you become an unaffiliated member? I was first accepted as the individual member of apralo. Then they said I become an observer cause apralo didn't accept indivudal members and didn't have the rules in place . now an unaffiliated member ... Unafiliated member is an oxymoron however you want to define it. Voting non voting member. ... The term just doesn't sound right.
On 17 Apr 2017 7:49 p.m., "Holly Raiche" < h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote: Thanks for distributing this - and a reminder to us all that we need to finalise this process.
A couple of comments (and I am repeating myself here)
First, I think we have captured the main comments people have made. On their interest in public interest/consumer issues, I�d slightly rephrase to have just one sentence asking for their past experience/activites or whatever in representing the public interest/interests of end users. -= then end sentence. New sentence to ask about past/current affiliations - making it clear that we want a clear statement of their interests/involvement in public interest/consumer issues.
My other comment - that is a LONG list of topics. Should we shorten it.
Otherwise, I’m happy.
I think, down the track, we can consider whether we follow other models in having one ALS for all unaffiliated members - but that can wait until we have sufficient numbers to worry about
Holly On 18 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org > wrote:
Dear APRALO members,
On behalf of APRALO’s Chair Satish Babu, please be so kind to review the form to become an Unaffiliated APRALO member, posted on the following wiki page and also attached to this email for your convenience.
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review...
Once approved, this form will be posted on the APRALO website, applicants will need to download the form, fill it in and send it to At-Large staff by email. The requests to become individual members of APRALO will continue to be handled by staff as per the current APRALO rules.
Please include your comments in the comment section of the wiki page if possible or by email bynext Wednesday April 26 at 23 UTC.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org
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Alan Greenberg -
Aris Ignacio -
Bikram Shrestha -
Jahangir Hossain -
Nadira Alaraj -
Satish Babu -
Shreedeep Rayamajhi