APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
Hi Everyone, As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments. Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome. Edmon =================================== APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs. IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete. The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience. While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven. Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others. Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams. We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies. Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission. Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym. Hong On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote:
Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission.
Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN.
Thanks! Charles
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
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-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym.
Hong
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote:
Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission.
Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN.
Thanks! Charles
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
Yes, that was how Dennis Jennings introduced the subject in San Francisco: http://audio.icann.org/meetings/siliconvalley2011/idn-variants-16mar11-en.mp 3 -- IDN Variant Issues Project (IDNVIP). Edmon From: charlespmok@gmail.com [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: March 29, 2011 4:37 PM To: Hong Xue Cc: Edmon Chung; APRALO Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym. Hong On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote: Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission. Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org -- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
Hi Everyone, Hearing no further comments on the draft, will consider the original draft as the final draft: ================================== APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs. IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete. The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience. While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven. Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others. Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams. We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies. Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced. ================================== If we hear no objection to it, will submit the comment into the public comment period on April 6 before the close of the comment period: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld Edmon From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@isoc.hk] Sent: March 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: 'Charles Mok'; 'Hong Xue' Cc: 'APRALO' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal Yes, that was how Dennis Jennings introduced the subject in San Francisco: http://audio.icann.org/meetings/siliconvalley2011/idn-variants-16mar11-en.mp 3 -- IDN Variant Issues Project (IDNVIP). Edmon From: charlespmok@gmail.com [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: March 29, 2011 4:37 PM To: Hong Xue Cc: Edmon Chung; APRALO Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym. Hong On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote: Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission. Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org -- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
Hi Everyone, Hearing no objections, I will go ahead and post the comment on APRALO's behalf. Edmon -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung Sent: April 4, 2011 9:54 AM To: 'APRALO' Subject: [APAC-Discuss] Last Call: RE: APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal Hi Everyone, Hearing no further comments on the draft, will consider the original draft as the final draft: ================================== APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs. IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete. The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience. While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven. Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others. Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams. We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies. Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced. ================================== If we hear no objection to it, will submit the comment into the public comment period on April 6 before the close of the comment period: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld Edmon From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@isoc.hk] Sent: March 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: 'Charles Mok'; 'Hong Xue' Cc: 'APRALO' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal Yes, that was how Dennis Jennings introduced the subject in San Francisco: http://audio.icann.org/meetings/siliconvalley2011/idn-variants-16mar11-en.mp 3 -- IDN Variant Issues Project (IDNVIP). Edmon From: charlespmok@gmail.com [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: March 29, 2011 4:37 PM To: Hong Xue Cc: Edmon Chung; APRALO Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym. Hong On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote: Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission. Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org -- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Thanks Edmon! Charles On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Hearing no objections, I will go ahead and post the comment on APRALO's behalf.
Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung Sent: April 4, 2011 9:54 AM To: 'APRALO' Subject: [APAC-Discuss] Last Call: RE: APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
Hi Everyone,
Hearing no further comments on the draft, will consider the original draft as the final draft:
==================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
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If we hear no objection to it, will submit the comment into the public comment period on April 6 before the close of the comment period: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
Edmon
From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@isoc.hk] Sent: March 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: 'Charles Mok'; 'Hong Xue' Cc: 'APRALO' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
Yes, that was how Dennis Jennings introduced the subject in San Francisco:
http://audio.icann.org/meetings/siliconvalley2011/idn-variants-16mar11-en.mp 3 -- IDN Variant Issues Project (IDNVIP).
Edmon
From: charlespmok@gmail.com [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: March 29, 2011 4:37 PM To: Hong Xue Cc: Edmon Chung; APRALO Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym.
Hong
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote:
Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission.
Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN.
Thanks! Charles
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
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APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
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Hi Edmond, Kindly feel free to proceed with the submission as there has been no objection by any member ALS so far and as Charles has intimated. I believe it is a valid moment to make a stable point regarding APRALO's position on IDN as it is from the most Human and Internet populous regions of the world that are impacted in a major way by current and future state of IDNs. It is useful to note here that in the near future as the ALAC Improvements Work Teams make their final submission of proposals, a need for capacity building and awareness has been identified whereby it would be proposed to carried out during the course of ICANN meetings. This would ensure that new ALAC/RALO participants would be able to get introduced and get up to speed with various issues such as IDNs etc. Once again, thank you for the continued interventions. Best Fouad On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Hearing no further comments on the draft, will consider the original draft as the final draft:
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APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
==================================
If we hear no objection to it, will submit the comment into the public comment period on April 6 before the close of the comment period: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
Edmon
From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@isoc.hk] Sent: March 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: 'Charles Mok'; 'Hong Xue' Cc: 'APRALO' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
Yes, that was how Dennis Jennings introduced the subject in San Francisco: http://audio.icann.org/meetings/siliconvalley2011/idn-variants-16mar11-en.mp 3 -- IDN Variant Issues Project (IDNVIP).
Edmon
From: charlespmok@gmail.com [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mok Sent: March 29, 2011 4:37 PM To: Hong Xue Cc: Edmon Chung; APRALO Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO response to IDN VIP proposal
I guess all it means is "Variant Issues Project" .... :) Right, Edmon?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, all. May I know why it is called a "VIP" Proposal? I was in vain to look for the explanation for this acronym.
Hong
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Charles Mok <mok@hknet.com> wrote:
Thank you Edmon for putting this up to members. Please feed back ASAP so we can collect the inputs for our final submission.
Hope we can get used to this input process so that APRALO can be in a position of providing more timely and considerate input to ICANN.
Thanks! Charles
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in our meeting during ICANN San Francisco, please find below a draft of a response to the proposed IDN VIP studies: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-variant-tld
The public comment period closes April 6 (next Wednesday). May I propose that we follow the suggested time frame of calling for a review and suggestion for edits for 3 days (until end of this week), upon which, I can help to consolidate/integrate any comments into a final version by next Monday (April 3) for a last call circulation of 3 days, thereupon if no further objection, we would submit the comment into the public comments.
Your thoughts/comments will be most welcome.
Edmon
===================================
APRALO Response on Draft Proposal for the Study of Issues Related to the Delegation of IDN Variant TLDs
APRALO welcomes the proposed studies on IDN Variant TLDs.
IDN TLDs are critical for the Asia Pacific Internet community. Without the delegation of preferred IDN Variants, the IDN TLD process is incomplete.
The IDN Variant TLD issue is well understood in the Asia Pacific Internet community. Comprehensive studies for Chinese, Indic and Arabic have been conducted. Especially for the Chinese community, the issue has studied for over a decade since 2000, and there is ample IDN Variant policy implementation and operational experience.
While we are encouraged that ICANN is finally recognizing the criticality of the delegation of IDN Variant TLDs, we also encourage ICANN to recognize the work that is already done by the community. Most importantly, we strongly suggest to ICANN to complete its adoption of bottom-up developed IDN Variant policies for the language communities where policy and operational experience is already mature and proven.
Regarding the proposed studies, the separation of the work into different case studies provides an appropriate direction. We expect this would help pave the way to ensure that delays or complications for one (or more) cases will not impede the progress for the others.
Finally, the composition of the case study teams would be crucial to the success of the studies. The policy and operational expertise from the Asia Pacific community, who has been working on the IDN Variant issue for an extended period of time should be leveraged by all study teams.
We believe that the APRALO should be consulted to identify appropriate members to participate in the case studies.
Furthermore, whereas a reasonable size for the teams is important to ensure workable efficiency and effectiveness, an inclusive approach, especially for observers would also be essential for the completeness and support of the work produced.
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
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Edmon Chung -
Fouad Bajwa -
Hong Xue