Dear All, *US Position on Huawei and ZTE* This is the Investigative Report that was released by the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman and Ranking Member Investigative Report on The U.S. National Security Issues Posed by Chinese Telecommunications Companies Huawei and ZTE. You can access it via http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/H... *China's Response [China Daily: Qi Li]* Qi Li writes an Article titled US Politicians' Hypocrisy, see: http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-10/15/content_15817855.htm I am wondering about what the Macs that are made in China??? Is this really about merchandise or is this just the clash of the Titans? -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851
Sala: Message to you: doubt always. Let's not talk about Macs and iPhones. Let's talk about CISCO network devices that are now embedded in the Internet infrastructure worldwide. The fact is most of that gear is assembled in China. Or places the Chinese could reach right quick. Here's what's fascinating to me. If the case is fear that Chinese government access to these devices could impair their operation for nefarious political purposes and knowing how Cisco gear is used around the world, the Chinese would somehow eschew the opportunity to embed 'stuff' in that gear at source. Incredible! Why would they miss this really really low hanging fruit to exploit? - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
*US Position on Huawei and ZTE* This is the Investigative Report that was released by the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman and Ranking Member Investigative Report on The U.S. National Security Issues Posed by Chinese Telecommunications Companies Huawei and ZTE. You can access it via
http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/H...
*China's Response [China Daily: Qi Li]* Qi Li writes an Article titled US Politicians' Hypocrisy, see: http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-10/15/content_15817855.htm
I am wondering about what the Macs that are made in China??? Is this really about merchandise or is this just the clash of the Titans?
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com
wrote:
Sala: Message to you: doubt always.
Let's not talk about Macs and iPhones.
@Carlton, I used the MAC as an illustration of something that end users can relate to as opposed to Cisco switches and routers which Telcos and ISPs incorporate into the telecommunications infrastructure. Both work to explain the battle that rages.
Let's talk about CISCO network devices that are now embedded in the Internet infrastructure worldwide. The fact is most of that gear is assembled in China. Or places the Chinese could reach right quick.
I know that Cisco and Huawei had settled out of court on alleged intellectual property rights infringements which was discovered when Cisco released a patch for a specific thing which Huawei also had to incorporate.
Here's what's fascinating to me. If the case is fear that Chinese government access to these devices could impair their operation for nefarious political purposes and knowing how Cisco gear is used around the world, the Chinese would somehow eschew the opportunity to embed 'stuff' in that gear at source. Incredible!
Indeed
Why would they miss this really really low hanging fruit to exploit?
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
*US Position on Huawei and ZTE* This is the Investigative Report that was released by the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman and Ranking Member Investigative Report on The U.S. National Security Issues Posed by Chinese Telecommunications Companies Huawei and ZTE. You can access it via
http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/H...
*China's Response [China Daily: Qi Li]* Qi Li writes an Article titled US Politicians' Hypocrisy, see: http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-10/15/content_15817855.htm
I am wondering about what the Macs that are made in China??? Is this
really
about merchandise or is this just the clash of the Titans?
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
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This at the end of the day is about business, politics and power. Be warned that as more and more of the matters under ICANN's purview become more commercialized, the more of this kind of manoevering we will see. Lance Hinds Chief Executive The BrainStreet Group www.brainstreetgroup.com Sent from meh iPad eh.... On Oct 15, 2012, at 6:41 PM, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com
wrote:
Sala: Message to you: doubt always.
Let's not talk about Macs and iPhones.
@Carlton, I used the MAC as an illustration of something that end users can relate to as opposed to Cisco switches and routers which Telcos and ISPs incorporate into the telecommunications infrastructure. Both work to explain the battle that rages.
Let's talk about CISCO network devices that are now embedded in the Internet infrastructure worldwide. The fact is most of that gear is assembled in China. Or places the Chinese could reach right quick.
I know that Cisco and Huawei had settled out of court on alleged intellectual property rights infringements which was discovered when Cisco released a patch for a specific thing which Huawei also had to incorporate.
Here's what's fascinating to me. If the case is fear that Chinese government access to these devices could impair their operation for nefarious political purposes and knowing how Cisco gear is used around the world, the Chinese would somehow eschew the opportunity to embed 'stuff' in that gear at source. Incredible!
Indeed
Why would they miss this really really low hanging fruit to exploit?
- Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
*US Position on Huawei and ZTE* This is the Investigative Report that was released by the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman and Ranking Member Investigative Report on The U.S. National Security Issues Posed by Chinese Telecommunications Companies Huawei and ZTE. You can access it via http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/H...
*China's Response [China Daily: Qi Li]* Qi Li writes an Article titled US Politicians' Hypocrisy, see: http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-10/15/content_15817855.htm
I am wondering about what the Macs that are made in China??? Is this really about merchandise or is this just the clash of the Titans?
-- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo@gmail.com> wrote:
This at the end of the day is about business, politics and power. Be warned that as more and more of the matters under ICANN's purview become more commercialized,
This issue is NOT by any stretch of anyone's imagination under the purview of ICANN! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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