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Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org
by Thomas Narten Oct. 12, 2012

Oct. 12, 2012

Total of 55 messages in the last 7 days. script run at: Fri Oct 12 00:53:04 EDT 2012 Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 32.73% | 18 | 32.83% | 178228 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com 12.73% | 7 | 10.22% | 55466 | carlton.samuels at gmail.com 7.27% | 4 | 12.22% | 66343 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca 5.45% | 3 | 3.99% | 21677 | joly at punkcast.com 3.64% | 2 | 5.22% | 28349 | yaovito at yahoo.fr 5.45% | 3 | 3.33% | 18095 | johnl at iecc.com 3.64% | 2 | 2.76% | 14989 | ocl at gih.com 1.82% | 1 | 4.46% | 24214 | parminder at itforchange.net 1.82% | 1 | 2.64% | 14347 | evan at telly.org 1.82% | 1 | 2.57% | 13941 | vanda at uol.com.br 1.82% | 1 | 2.45% | 13288 | julie.hammer at bigpond.com 1.82% | 1 | 2.30% | 12460 | info at hoferichter.eu 1.82% | 1 | 2.11% | 11466 | tijani.benjemaa at fmai.org 1.82% | 1 | 1.94% | 10514 | rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com 1.82% | 1 | 1.53% | 8313 | narten at us.ibm.com 1.82% | 1 | 1.39% | 7520 | jstyre at jstyre.com 1.82% | 1 | 1.31% | 7102 | michele at blacknight.ie 1.82% | 1 | 1.24% | 6743 | staff at atlarge.icann.org 1.82% | 1 | 1.21% | 6562 | devtee at gmail.com 1.82% | 1 | 1.17% | 6347 | jaap at nlnetlabs.nl 1.82% | 1 | 1.10% | 5949 | derek at aa419.org 1.82% | 1 | 1.03% | 5595 | lutz at iks-jena.de 1.82% | 1 | 0.98% | 5315 | lutz at thur.de --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 55 |100.00% | 542823 | Total

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NCUC Policy Conference “Security & Freedom in a Connected World” Friday 10/12 (remote participation details)
by Joly MacFie Oct. 11, 2012

Oct. 11, 2012

[image: NCUC Conference] <http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45.html>The ICANN <http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45.html>Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) <http://ncuc.org/> is holding an all-day policy conference *“ICANN & Internet Governance: Security & Freedom in a Connected World” <http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45.html> *in Toronto on Friday, 12 October 2012 – the eve of ICANN #45 <http://toronto45.icann.org/> .The conference will explore key ICANN and Internet governance policy issues. It will discuss the promotion of cyber-security and human rights on the Internet, multi-stakeholderism and the role of governments, and key policy issues surrounding new top-level domains such as freedom of expression and intellectual property rights. The conference’s subtitle recognizes society’s shared twin goals of security and freedom, and questions to what extent must society sacrifice one for the other. Remote participation will be available via Adobe Connect <http://icann.adobeconnect.com/yyz45-ncuc/> and there will also be a live webcast via the Internet Society Chapters Webcasting Channel <http://bit%2Cly/isoctv>. Toronto time is UTC-4. * * *What*: NCUC Policy Conference: Security & Freedom in a Connected World<http://www.amiando.com/NCUC-ICANN45.html> *Where*: Fairmont Royal York Hotel, Toronto, Canada *When*: Friday October 12 2012 9am-5:45pm | 1300-2145 UTC *Program*: http://bit.ly/QeKXxa *Adobe Connect*: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/yyz45-ncuc/ *Webcast*: http://bit,ly/isoctv *Twitter*: #ncuc <https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23ncuc> | #icann45<https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23icann45> -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Re: [At-Large] [technical-issues] Verisign files a patent on domain transfers
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 10, 2012

Oct. 10, 2012

Dear Sanford, I hate to break it to you but having just searched the US Patents and Trademark Office, it is a legitimate Application and is not a prank. See: http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP… On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Sanford George <sandyg(a)usc.edu> wrote: > Considering the filing date, I wonder if this may be someone's attempt at > humor? > > Sandy > Sanford H George > Los Nettos > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> > Date: Monday, October 8, 2012 1:59 am > Subject: Re: [technical-issues] [At-Large] Verisign files a patent on > domain transfers > To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: "technical-issues(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < > technical-issues(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz(a)thur.de> > > > Dear All, > > > > So much for an open and free internet? This is a well thought out, > > deliberate and calculated move designed to limit control over the > > DNS and > > in the event that there was to be balkanisation, they would attempt to > > derive revenue from patents pending. The global community if they > > are in > > their right mind should file immediate Objections! > > > > Unless this is a part of a general US strategy to retain control > > over the > > Internet for all eternity. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Sala > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:52 PM, "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" < > > michele(a)blacknight.ie> wrote: > > > > > I saw that over the weekend and my heart sank. > > > > > > As a registrar I raised this issue with Dr Crocker a couple of > > years ago > > > and it was pretty clear to me at the time that the entire > > transfer thing > > > hadn't really been thought about. > > > However transfers are pretty "key" to domains.. People do it all > > the time > > > - be that a simple change of nameservers, hosting provider or > > registrar..> > > > To think that someone would actually slap a patent on something > > like this > > > is truly depressing (ok, maybe I need more coffee). > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Michele > > > -- > > > Mr Michele Neylon > > > Blacknight Solutions > > > Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection > > > http://www.blacknight.com/ > > > http://blog.blacknight.com/ > > > http://mneylon.tel/ > > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > > Locall: 1850 929 929 > > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > > Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon > > > ------------------------------- > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business > > Park,Sleaty> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: technical-issues-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > > > technical-issues-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Lutz > > > Donnerhacke [lutz(a)thur.de] > > > Sent: 08 October 2012 08:30 > > > To: technical-issues(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Cc: at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [technical-issues] Verisign files a patent on domain > > transfers> > > > How can we proceed, if fundamental operations in the DNS System are > > > patented? > > > > > > http://domainnamewire.com/wp-content/verisign-dnssec.pdf > > > > > > Of course there is prior art, i.e. > > > http://www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/Resilience-and- > > CIIP/networks-and-services-resilience/dnssec/gpgdnssec > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Technical-issues mailing list > > > Technical-issues(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/technical-issues > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > At-Large mailing list > > > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large > > > > > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > P.O. Box 17862 > > Suva > > Fiji > > > > Twitter: @SalanietaT > > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > > Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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Promoting a collaborative session involving ALAC and NPOC
by At-Large Staff Oct. 10, 2012

Oct. 10, 2012

Workshop on The Multi-stakeholder model from the NGO´s perspective [17 October 2012] During ICANN 45 that will take place in Toronto, Canada, 14-18 October 2012, ICANN constituency, Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns (NPOC) and the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) are collaborating in organizing a working session on the Multi stakeholder model from the NGO´s perspective. The Multi-Stakeholder Model (MSM) has been used worldwide for decades by many organizations like ICANN and various social and economical development programs to foster consensus between diverging interests in the public domain, the private sector and civil society. There is a wide body of applied knowledge on the MSM which merits wider dissemination and understanding. A panel of eminent specialists will share some of this knowledge and foster a discussion on how the MSM can be improved and the existing challenges both from a global and an ICANN perspective. PANELISTS: Mr. Jean-Jacques Subrenat (At Large Advisory Committee-ICANN) Ms. Rinalia Abdul Rahim (At Large Advisory Committee-ICANN) Mr. Evan Leibovitch (At Large Advisory Committee-ICANN) Dr. Sam Lanfranco (York University, Ontario, Canada) Mr. Alain Berranger (Chair, NPOC-Executive Committee) for more detailed information about the panelist¹s bio please visit NPOC wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Multi-stakeholder+pr ocess+from+the+NGO+perspective+Toronto+2012-10-17 MEETING LOCATION: Dockside 5, Westing Harbour Castle Toronto, Ontario, Canada WHEN: Wednesday 17 October 2012 - 09:00 -10:30 A.M. local time (15:00 -16:30 UTC) FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION please click on the following link: http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34391 and then choose the remote participation option depending on your bandwidth. No registration required. To access to the ICANN meeting full schedule please see: http://toronto45.icann.org/full-schedule

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Patent Wars Stifling Innovation - ITU as Referee?
by Carlton Samuels Oct. 10, 2012

Oct. 10, 2012

Hmmm, seems like some folks are really discomfited...and the ITU is facilitating talks to forge a ceasefire.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19887318 - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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Re: [At-Large] [technical-issues] Verisign files a patent on domain transfers
by Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

It would appear from what Alexander analysed is the "non-functionality" aspect, and prior art on other aspects. See: "What Verisign actually proposes is essentially the same process described in the IETF draft, but with one step omitted. The problem with Verisign "invention" is that after we change the NS records (step S1060) and some resolver have an old RRSIG in it's cache and the DNSKEY is already expired from the cache, what will happen is that the recursive resolver will query the new authoritative servers for the DNSKEY records and will get the new DNSKEY RRset without the old ZSK (that is the invention). What we end up with is an RRSIG signed with the old DNSKEY, and the new DNSKEY RRset (which have no old DNSKEY - that is the invention). *Recursive resolver will not be able to validate the RSSIG, and DNSSEC * *validation will fail. *The domain will not validate and therefore it will not be accessible. The same story repeats itself for a case where only the DNS hosting provider is switched (and not the registrar) - paragraphs [0070]..[0075], adding another mistake at [0075] c. - Verisign suggests to change the nameservers and then immediately "Remove losing hosting provider DS record".* But what if * *some recursive resolver have RRSIG and DNSKEY in it's cache, while the DS record is already expired ? - The resolver will receive the new DS only and the * *domain will fail to validate again."* * * On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el(a)lisse.na> wrote: > So, one should not object to it on the ground of "prior art" but > "non functionality"? > > el > > On 2012-10-09 23:29 , Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > There is a comparison between the existing Internet Draft on > > Domain Name Transfers and Verisign's Patent Applications which > > people can access via http://ubuntuone.com/4Bz1BqOsGMkTUQgViEL0rz > > > > Kind Regards, Sala > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851

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Copyright Violation 'Takedowns' are Messier by the Day
by Carlton Samuels Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

.....and under mine our quiet possession of content. They apparently are following my father's advice 'shoot first and ask questions later'. Except his referred a hazard to life! Naturally, the excuse given is 'it's the computer'..... https://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bogus-dmca-notices-censor-bbc-cnn-wikip… - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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Verisign files a patent on domain transfers
by Lutz Donnerhacke Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

How can we proceed, if fundamental operations in the DNS System are patented? http://domainnamewire.com/wp-content/verisign-dnssec.pdf Of course there is prior art, i.e. http://www.enisa.europa.eu/activities/Resilience-and-CIIP/networks-and-serv…

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More DNS patents
by Lutz Donnerhacke Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?query_txt=dnssec&sort=relevanc… http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?query_txt=domain+name+system&s… Yes, even *validating WHOIS information* is patented.

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Arab IGF underway in Kuwait (webcast info)
by Joly MacFie Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

[image: Arab IGF] <http://arabigf.kits.org.kw/>The inaugural Arab IGF<http://arabigf.kits.org.kw/> takes place October 9-11 2012 in Kuwait. Themes are Access, Content, Openess, Security and Privacy, Critical Internet Resources, and Youth. There is a live webcast. Kuwait is UTC+3 What: Arab Internet Governance Forum <http://arabigf.kits.org.kw/> Where: The Regency Kuwait When: October 9-11 2012 Program: http://arabigf.kits.org.kw/program/ Webcast: http://arabigf.kits.org.kw/livestream Facebook: http://facebook.com/ArabIGF Twitter: #ArabIGF <https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/realtime/%23ArabIGF> <https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/realtime/%23ArabIGF> -- <https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/realtime/%23ArabIGF> -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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